From: Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one
Wikipedia"
To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 6:06 PM
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:26 AM,
Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
as if we were dumb. I have heard (and I am not an
expert) from many
people the idea that you will get what you give,
meaning that if you
treat an adolescent as if they were a criminal,
they
will often become
a criminal; it seems to me that if we treat
children
as dumber
versions of adult human beings, they will grow up
to
be just that.
(again, I'm not an expert)
A kind of virtuous circle and vicious circle. Dumb adults
are creating
dumb articles because they think that their children are
dumb, which
in turn transforms children into dumb adults ;)
I think you all are getting rather sidetracked over the details of content of some
proposed project that I do not believe you are actually interested in joining. Surely any
detailed decisions as exactly how to approach writing medical articles for children would
be an internal conclusion. The real issue here is what merits the creation of a new wiki
versus some specific project being setup as subset of an existing wiki.
I have come the conclusion the biggest factor leading to success of a new wiki is a large
enough community with a strong sense of a separate mission. If all you have is a small
group of hard core content editors you will be more successful as subset of an existing
wiki, if one is so kind enough to make room for you. One thing that happens in a small
wiki is all the happy energy which was geared towards the content must be siphoned off
into seemingly endless administration tasks. It takes a while for the community to grow
enough to overcome that deficit. I would not recommend anyone to be in a hurry to make
their own new space. The longer you can use an existing wiki to experiment with the your
project the stronger you can grow your community, and maybe you can find a way to
permanently fit within the existing scope while meeting the needs of your specific
mission. If you can it do that it will greatly improve your ability to work on content. I
would
advise this group that as exciting as having their own Wikipedia must sound, they might
be more successful as a project within de.WP or de.WB And even if they are dead-set on an
independent wiki, they will benefit from starting within an existing structure to grow a
good sized proof of concept.
Birgitte SB