I'm curious as to what the ideal distribution of members might have
been?

To me I would have thought that each region picked 2 representatives giving each equality with the WMF, not that it would be equity given the difference in numbers and purpose.   I accept that with more than 300 languages, 170 affiliates, 13 projects, the WMF/BoT, no combination of 15 is going to be able to represent the community with anything near equity.

The biggest issue was how much the process changed once it commenced and that in part contributed to the numbers and the lack assurity in the process.   

 I also think that a Movement Charter is something entirely different to creating governance for the Global Council despite how its been worded.  Ideally the MCDC would split into working groups to focus on each aspect this out comes means that people from 4 regions will have to chose where the community they represent will best heard and served while 4 other regions and the WMF will have voice in each



On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 20:24, Mike Peel <email@mikepeel.net> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm curious as to what the ideal distribution of members might have
been? NWE has 3 members, which seems like an outlier, but all the others
were 1 or 2 - so which would you have picked to have 1 member rather
than 2? Or should there just be more members overall (good for the
global council itself, less good for a drafting committee)?

Thanks,
Mike

On 1/11/21 14:13:53, Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Coming from South Asia and looking at ESEAP, I am not at all excited
> considering the geographical representation of the committee as per
> Wikimedia regions[1], excluding WMF appointed candidates who will
> represent WMF instead of the regions itself, we have
>
>       o United States and Canada - 2 members
>       o Western & Northern Europe - 3 members
>       o Central and Eastern Europe & Central Asia - 1 member
>       o Sub-Saharan Africa - 1 member
>       o Middle East and North Africa - 2 members
>       o East, Southeast Asia and the Pacific - 1 member
>       o South Asia - 1 member
>       o Latin America & Caribbean - 2 members
>
> I am so surprised to see only 1 representation from ESEAP which has such
> a thriving group of affiliates and which had talked about and tried to
> materialise to build a hub in the region so passionately. If movement
> strategy wants Wikimedia to reach the next billion users in future, they
> are in South Asia and ESEAP and without hearing the voices from those
> regions, that target will be very hard to achieve.
>
> Anyway, good luck and best wishes for the drafting process. Hope it will
> echo our voices.
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Affiliate-chosen_members
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Affiliate-chosen_members>
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 18:32, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com
> <mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Congratulations to all elected, selected and appointed
>
>     Mohsen
>
>     On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:47 PM Kaarel Vaidla <kvaidla@wikimedia.org
>     <mailto:kvaidla@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
>
>         Dear movement colleagues,
>
>
>         I am happy to announce that the Movement Charter Drafting
>         Committee election and selection processes are complete.
>
>           *
>
>             1018 participants voted to elect
>             <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Set_Up_Process#Election_process>seven
>             members to the committee:
>
>               o
>
>                 Richard Knipel (Pharos)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Richard_Knipel_(Pharos)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Anne Clin (Risker)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Anne_Clin_(Risker)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Alice_Wiegand_(lyzzy)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Micha%C5%82_Buczy%C5%84ski_(Aegis_Maelstrom)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Richard (Nosebagbear)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Richard_(Nosebagbear)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Ciell (Ciell)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Ciell_(Ciell)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Ravan_J_Al-Taie_(Ravan)>
>
>           *
>
>             The affiliate process
>             <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Set_Up_Process#Selection_process>has
>             selected six members:
>
>               o
>
>                 Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Anass_Sedrati_(Anass_Sedrati)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#%C3%89rica_Azzellini_(EricaAzzellini)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Jamie_Li-Yun_Lin_(Li-Yun_Lin)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Georges Fodouop (Geugeor)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Georges_Fodouop_(Geugeor)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Manavpreet_Kaur_(Manavpreet_Kaur)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Pepe Flores (Padaguan)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Pepe_Flores_(Padaguan)>
>
>           *
>
>             The Wikimedia Foundation has appointed
>             <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Set_Up_Process#Appointment_by_the_Wikimedia_Foundation>
>             two members:
>
>               o
>
>                 Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Runa_Bhattacharjee_(Runab_WMF)>
>
>               o
>
>                 Jorge Vargas (JVargas WMF)
>                 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Jorge_Vargas_(JVargas_(WMF))>
>
>
>         The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee
>         can appoint up to three more members  to bridge diversity and
>         expertise gaps.
>
>
>         We are also in the process of creating the meta pages with more
>         details regarding the election and selection processes. I will
>         follow-up in this thread when they are available.
>
>
>         If you are interested in engaging with the Movement Charter
>         drafting process
>         <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter>, follow the
>         updates on Meta
>         <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee>and
>         join the Telegram group <https://t.me/joinchat/U-4hhVPaxKGHseva>.
>
>
>         With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team
>
>         --
>
>               
>
>         Kaarel Vaidla (he/him)
>
>         Movement Strategy <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2030>
>
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