Hoi, For your information ... an interview with Mr Zuggerberg... In my opinion there is an opportunity as he is looking for dense information.. we are really good at that :) Thanks, Gerard
http://www.wired.com/business/2013/08/mark-zuckerberg-internet-org/
On 23 August 2013 14:38, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada emijrp@gmail.comwrote:
Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data.
2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be
seen
by many more people, they do us a service.
In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of
all
about getting the knowledge out there. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best jens.best@wikimedia.de wrote:
Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel,
they
don't share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So,
actually,
Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their
next
moves. It will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with
whom
they really cooperate.
It's time to realize that there isn't a shared vision of the web
between
Silicon Valley and Wikimedia. Their words are empty. When they speak of freedom, they speak of the freedom of money and control. Just because
they
use the word "internet" they don't speak of the same thing we do.
Jens
2013/8/23 Emmanuel Engelhart kelson@kiwix.org
Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit :
I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for
now.
Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how
would
internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort
to
be
involved?
If what I fear becomes real, then I would be sad that our movement
joins
such a dishonest project.
If they want to give access to a subset of Internet services and
adapt
their communication (honesty about the product), then we face a
dilemma.
A dilemna between our wish to give access to our content (tactical
move)
and the one of having a free, neutral and un-clustered Internet (strategical view)... Big discussions in view, but we already have
done
it with Wikipedia zero and I know the WMF tends to be pragmatic in
such
situations ;)
If they really want to help to give a neutral access to internet...
then
this is really a dream we should be part of!
But, this is all about speculations...
I just wanted to explain why this launch doesn't sound well to my
hears.
But I know nothing about their real intentions and concrete projects. That's why, it's IMO urgent to wait... and see in which direction
they
will make the next moves.
Emmanuel
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