Has anyone done a search on other logos with similar characteristics, to see how much they differ? I think the WTO is taking a chance with this. Which specific aspects do they object to? Peter Southwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Dennis" mdennis@wikimedia.org To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:21 PM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Michelle Paulson wrote:
Since then, the Foundation has received a cease-and-desist letter from the WTO, requesting that we change the logo. While we wish that the WTO agreed with our assessment that the two logos contain substantial differences and could co-exist, we understand their concern. We still believe that there are some significant differences between the Wikivoyage logo and the WTO, however, such arguments are not guaranteed to win if we were to legally oppose this request because there are also some substantial similarities. With this in mind, as well as the fact that the Wikivoyage logo is still relatively new and has not had a chance to build significant brand recognition yet, we believe the better solution is to hold a new community contest for a new logo.
Will the current Wikivoyage logo be an option in this upcoming logo selection contest? If the Wikivoyage community is strongly in favor of retaining the logo it already approved, what are options?
On behalf of a Wikivoyager, I've already asked the legal team if derivatives of the current logo would be usable, and I'm afraid the answer is no. It must be a new logo.
I don't believe there's any precedent for the Wikimedia Foundation vetoing a community-approved logo in this manner. (Is there?) This seems like unchartered territory for Wikimedia, so it's important to be cautious and careful, I think.
I think that the reason why there's no precedent is because this is the first time that we have run into a trademark infringement claim against a logo.
We believe that the community is the best body to decide what logo should represent their hard work and hope that interested community members will take this opportunity to once again showcase their creativity and talent by submitting designs.
As I posted on the relevant Meta-Wiki talk page just now, the Wikimedia community cannot feel rushed or pressured to accept this new logo selection procedure. Typically a discussion of this nature would last at least thirty days, from my experience.
This leaves two options, as I see it: pushing back the timeline for the selection of a Wikivoyage logo by a few weeks or not using this procedure for the selection of the next Wikivoyage logo.
The question of process is one for Meta, where discussion is already underway. No reason to fracture it. :) I appreciate your input there.
Maggie
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