I think that you are making a number of assertions about the community,
individuals, the Foundation, and the power and roles and responsibilities
that aren't warranted.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 2:15 AM Mister Thrapostibongles <
thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Frankly, I'm surprised by how surprised everyone
is. The Foundation has
the responsibility to support the community, and the time, the expertise,
the money and the people to do so. Individual volunteers, however
well-meaning, do not. The Foundation has determined that in this
particular case the community;s own processes were unable to provide the
support that the community needed, and so the Foundation has acted to do
so, as you would expect.
Thrapostibongles
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:26 AM Techman224 <techman224(a)techman224.ca>
wrote:
Forwarding to WIkimedia-l since WikiEN-l is
relatively dead.
Since this message, an Arbcom member (SilkTork) stated that they weren't
consulted, nor did this action was the result of Arbcom forwarding a
concern to the office. [1]
The only non-response excuse from the WMF [2] was that "local communities
consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but
the
Terms of Use, too.” even though there were no
complaints on-wiki nor to
Arbcom privately.
The on-wiki discussion is taking place at the Bureaucrats and the Arbcom
noticeboards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fra…
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:F…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticebo…
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Commi…
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Commi…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Statemen…
Techman224
Begin forwarded message:
From: George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block
Date: June 10, 2019 at 8:54:34 PM CDT
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
In case you're not following on-wiki - Office S&T blocked English
Wikipedia
user / administrator Fram for a year and
desysopped, for unspecified
reasons in the Office purview. There was a brief statement here from
Office regarding it which gave no details other than that normal policy
and
procedures for Office actions were followed,
which under normal
circumstances preclude public comments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fra…
>
> Several people on Arbcom and board have commented they're making
private
> inquiries under normal reporting and
communication channels, due to the
> oddity and essentially uniqueness of the action.
>
> There was an initial surge of dismay which has mellowed IMHO into "Ok,
> responsible people following up".
>
> I understand the sensitivity of some of the topics under Office
actions,
having
done OTRS and other various had-to-stay-private stuff myself at
times in the past. A high profile investigation target is most unusual
but
not unheard of.
I did send email to Fram earlier today asking if they had any public
comment, no reply as yet.
--
-george william herbert
george.herbert(a)gmail.com
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