One of the wiki things is that you do NOT have to have your house completely
in order, it is ok that you are working on it.. We are clearly trying to do
our best and I expect that we will never find it good enough. When this
means that we should not reach out, when it means that we cannot be part of
the wiki movement, I would consider it a tragedy, a lost opportunity .. in
some way a failure.
When the idea is to improve our WMF communications ... sure ... who is
included ? what is the aim ?
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
In the Wiki movement the Wikimedia Foundation,
its projects, its chapters
are vitally important. When you want to call this a movement however, it
equally important to reach out and recognise the
part other organisations
and projects play.
When you call it the "Wikimedia movement" and invoke trademark rules to
exclude, as a movement it will be limited. Its potential relevance
It is for this reason that I suggest to be
clearly inclusive or
When we choose to be exclusive, there is still
room for a wiki movement,
saddens me that the "Wikimedia
movement" will be as a consequence less
relevant in this wiki movement.
I think that the situation is complex. We have a need to make wider
movement, while we didn't solve problems in our house. So, maybe the
time is to make something which wouldn't pretend to call itself as a
"movement", but to make communication between different organized
groups inside of Wikimedia better, as well as their presentation to
outsiders. When we put it at the legs, we would be able to think about
free knowledge movement.
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