On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Anthony DiPierro wrote:
On 12/6/05, Jonathan Leybovich
<jleybov(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anthony DiPierro wrote:
>
>Maybe complicated isn't what I'm looking for. But
> consider the
> following and whether or not you'd enjoy editing it
> by hand:
>
>'''Roy [[cite:ISBN:123456789:p. 7|"Roy Orbison's
> middle name is
>Kelton"|"Kelton"]] Orbison'''
No, this isn't the kind of markup you want to see when you 'edit this
page', though you could make it editable-by-hand at some deep level.
Yes, there should be a separate references page.
One piece of markup you *do* want to see in the regular page-editing is an
auto-citation generator that will subst: in the default cite for a given
ISBN or other identifier... just to save time.
Yes, having auto-generated References and Footnotes sections should be
possible... though you would also want a manually-edited subsection of
References.
Anthony writes:
Hmm, just throwing something out there, but what if
this is all kept
on a separate page? So you'd have the regular wikitext, and then
you'd have a list of references, in the form (reference, cited text,
article text). One problem with this is if the article text changes
Definitely. Bear in mind that most references are best-done in the form
of footnotes, floating at the end of a sentence, and only very loosely
assigned to a specific block of text (the default chunk would be the
preceding sentence, perhaps with simple markup that identifies the
preceding N sentences or the entire paragraph). So these can be in the
wikitext in the form of a footnote; both linking to a short-cite at the
end of a page, and to a full-cite (including perhaps the entire
sentence-text when the cite was first inserted? with some semi-automated
way to update that text?) on its References: page.
The References: page should just be a versioned wiki-page like any other,
but in a specific format that allows for auto-additions and auto-updates
when the article itself is changed in certain ways.
*at all* the reference would have to be updated. But
*eventually*
mechanisms could be designed to resolve this, once we get away from
editing articles using raw ascii text.
SJ