On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 09:37 Robert Fernandez <wikigamaliel(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Through various means I'm aware of the partial or
full circumstances
of a number of office bans. In all cases, T&S investigated thoroughly
and acted appropriately. I don't know why this case would be any
different, or warrants pitchforks and torches from vocal members of
the community, but these are the same community members who break them
out at every opportunity in any case.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:06 AM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am trying to have an open mind regarding this matter.
I'm supportive of local and global bans in a variety of circumstances,
and
if WMF thinks that sanctions are appropriate then
I generally would
expect
WMF to present the relevant evidence to community
authorities. English
Wikipedia has ways of dealing with editors who are accused of misconduct,
and we have experienced administrators who are capable of investigating
situations and implementing bans including cases which involve nonpublic
evidence.
In the absence of convincing evidence that demonstrates a major problem
with a Wikimedia community's competence and willingness to adjudicate
cases
in a fair manner, I think that WMF interventions
such as this are
difficult
to justify. Based on the limited information that
I have, I disagree with
WMF's process for this specific case, and in general I have ongoing
concerns about WMF's process for WMF-initiated bans. WMF's lack of faith
in
the English Wikipedia community authorities'
competence to adjudicate a
case such as this is discouraging and, as far as I know, not justified.
Even if a local community has well known problems with its
self-governance,
I think that the appropriate recourse would be to
the global community.
While the global community seems generally opposed to reviewing appeals
of
specific local cases, I think that evidence of
systemic problems would
likely get more attention and perhaps even a request from the global
community for WMF intervention.
Based on the information that I know, I would reverse this WMF action and
move the case to the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee for its
consideration.
Pine
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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