PS I am not a former arb, do not have access to functionaries mailing list, I do not have access nor have ever had access to any of the above including Oversight. I was just throwing out autoconfirmed as a line in the sand, we can adjust the line so that normal users can be notified while excluding spambots. One point could be say 50 edits and at least a month old account? The nature and required secrecy for such a open project is scary in this regards.
John
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
I am not a checkuser, I do not have access to checkuser-l, the CU wiki, or any other private information. This goes far beyond the one case, I was just using it as a recent example
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 June 2012 19:18, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
This is something that has been bugging me for a while. When a user has been checkusered they should at least be notified of who preformed it
and
why it was preformed. I know this is not viable for every single CU
action
as many are for anons. But for those users who have been around for a period, (say autoconfirmed) they should be notified when they are CU'ed
and
any user should be able to request the CU logs pertaining to themselves (who CU'ed them, when, and why) at will. I have seen CU's refuse to
provide
information to the accused.
See the Rich Farmbrough ArbCom case where I suspect obvious fishing,
where
the CU'ed user was requesting information and the CU claimed it would
be a
violation of the privacy policy to release the time/reason/performer of
the
checkuser.
This screams of obfuscation and the hiding of information. I know the ombudsman committee exists as a check and balance, however before
something
can be passed to them evidence of inappropriate action is needed. Ergo Catch-22
I know checkusers keep a private wiki https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and I know according to
our
privacy policy we are supposed to purge our information regularly (on
wiki
CU logs exist for 90 days) however who oversees the regular removal of private information on the wiki?
My proposal would be for all users who are at least auto confirmed to be notified and be able to request all CU logs regarding themselves at any point, and any mentions of themselves on the CU wiki should be
retrievable.
Perhaps some full disclosure should be made here John. You are a checkuser yourself, have access to the checkuser-L mailing list and the checkuser wiki, helped to set up the Audit Subcommittee on the English Wikipedia (which carries out reviews of checkuser/oversighter actions on request); you are also a member of the English Wikipedia functionaries mailing list because you are a former arbitrator, a checkuser and an oversighter on enwp. (so have access there to express your concerns or suggest changes in standards), It seems you are complaining about a specific case, and instead of talking things out about this specific case, you've decided to propose an entirely different checkusering standard. I'll point out in passing that half of the spambots blocked in recent weeks by checkusers were autoconfirmed on one or more projects, and even obvious vandals can hit the autoconfirmed threshold easily on most projects.
Full disclosure on my part: I am also an Enwp checkuser and a member of the Arbitration Committee.
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