Hoi, The world is not so simple. When we accept material from a GLAM in a low resolution, we should be happy with what we get. When a GLAM considers this an acceptance that this material is copyrightable they are wrong. When we accept material we get it with annotations, we get it with all the aspects that make this material worthwhile.
Our Commons material is useless if it was not for our categories, the annotations of the material that we store. This is in my opinion the most important part of the picture because this is what gives our material relevance and makes it possible to find it. This is at the same time the biggest problem of Commons. You can only find things when you know your English. Thanks, GerardM
2009/9/25 Teofilo teofilowiki@gmail.com
David Monniaux said : "release lower resolution pictures under free license, keep high resolution pictures (those suitable for art books, posters and so on) proprietary."
I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. Because this is what the French copyright law is saying. There is no need to negociate anything. There is no need to change a single word from the current French copyright law. Simply have the French government's cultural institutions (museums, archives) recognize that they have been wrong until now, by adding copyright notices on Public Domain works (in France: non-poshumous works whose authors have been dead for more than 70 years).
If someone has another opportunity to write an article in Libération or elsewhere, please denounce the copyright notices added by the Musée d'Orsay on a picture like the photograph of Louis Blanc by photographer Etienne Carjat who died in 1906 (1).
Please denounce the copyright notice added by Musée Carnavalet on a bidimensional work like the Declaration of Human Rights by Le Barbier (who died in 1826) (2). And don't tell me that a school teacher can use this work at school with a 400x400 px size, like what is available to them through the new agreement signed between the French ministry of Education and authors' representative bodies (3). A teacher needs to show his pupils every details on the picture.
Negociating small size pictures could be only a lower level priority concerning truely copyrighted works when the artists are still alive and need money to buy their bread.
(1) ©photo musée d'Orsay / rmn on
http://www.musee-orsay.fr/en/collections/index-of-works/notice.html?no_cache...
(2) © musée Carnavalet, © direction des musées de France, 2008 Droits photo © musée Carnavalet / Roger-Viollet on
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIE...
(3) http://www.education.gouv.fr/cid48874/menj0900756x.html
2009/9/22, Yann Forget yann@forget-me.net:
Hello, I think this is worth a larger audience. Yann
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Commons-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the French cultural authorities Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:51:12 +0200 From: David Monniaux <David . Monniaux @ free . fr> To: commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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I proposed a way out: release lower resolution pictures under free license, keep high resolution pictures (those suitable for art books, posters and so on) proprietary. The suggestion has been retained by the commission - even though they still seem to toy with this idea of "negotiation".
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