Hi Pete -
I was using oversight rather loosely to mean "there's a body of people
looking over the process sufficient to catch any terrific fumbles before
they get out of the gate," rather than any stricter sense of the term. I
view the scrutiny of a reasonable number of other Wikimedians as a form of
oversight, even without a hierarchical structure in place. I would say
that ITN or DYK on ENWP have reasonable oversight (although it certainly
sometimes fails,) but don't view a process that needs 1-2 people to promote
something to a highly viewed mainpage as having reasonable oversight.
Best,
Kevin Gorman
Wikipedian-in-Residence
UC Berkeley
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Kevin,
I didn't think you were using "oversight" in the MediaWiki jargon sense.
But I do think the concept of oversight -- as distinct from consideration,
discussion, deliberation, or consensus-building -- is very disconnected
from the present reality. What authority would be claimed in conducting
this oversight, and what set of rules would be enforced?
Pete
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgorman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Heh, I probably shouldn't have chosen a word
with two more or less
contradictory ideas that also refers to a mediawiki userright. I meant
oversight as in scrutiny by other Wikimedians to ensure the process
doesn't
go off the rails, not oversight as in negligence
or oversight as in what
we
do to especially nasty content instead of revdel.
(I would consider any
process that gets large graphics on to prominent pages on the projects
with
so few checks on it as lacking sufficient
oversight.)
-----
Kevin Gorman
Wikipedian-in-Residence
UC Berkeley
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgorman(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> there's something seriously weird about the fact that a project that
all
other
projects depend on has the media it displays on it's front page
selected by pretty much one person with no
I was with you up until the last word. Did you really mean:
oversight.
???
-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
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