26.04.2016, 03:25, "John Mark Vandenberg" <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>om>:
My reading of that is Jimmy supported her
"departure" with sadness.
i.e. he avoids indicating how the departure occurred; neither dismissal nor
No doubt that type of phrasing is in the HR handbook for situations like
this, to avoid pain or legal disputes after the fact.
Thank you Craig for nipping this one in the bud.
Craig gave the right link. Here's the exact exchange.
Gorillawarfare: I would love to know whether you supported Lila Tretikov's departure.
It is clear that she did not up and resign on her own, and I would like to know if you
were one of the folks who thought her departure would be beneficial, or if you preferred
she "weather the storm," so to speak.
Jimbo Wales: I supported it with sadness. The whole thing is a sad train wreck.
Yeah, it's accurate no-one says the word "dismissal." That was my
interpretation of it based on recollection, I wasn't trying to introduce a new concept
I don't understand why we're walking on eggshells really. Jimbo "supported
her departure with sadness." It seems pretty clear he's not referring to getting
misty-eyed over cake at Lila's farewell party. He did something. He's not
quarreling with Gorillawarfare's take that "she did not up and resign on her
As just an observer from afar, I liked Lila and thought she was doing a good job. She
hired a child-protection person for one thing. However I've heard about the employee
poll that said she really was failing to get support from the ranks, and I'm in no
position to second-guess that. And then a couple months ago, she's getting bashed
right and left on this very list, with a person going so far as to say she should
"choke on shame" and "just go away." With no objection from the list
moderators.Jimbo is going bonkers on James Heilman regarding his characterization of
"Knowledge Engine." And of course Lila was a proponent of that. All the same,
her resignation came quickly and as a surprise to me.
If the board had no discussion on her future and did NOT ask for or otherwise overtly
encourage her resignation, it would be easy enough for any one of them to say that. If
they on the other hand actually did meet or tele-conference and vote on it, that's the
meeting I wanted minutes for. And obviously (thank Risker!) this doesn't mean I want
to gawk at gossipy details of trustees criticizing her, I just would like to know which
trustees gave the thumbs down, which didn't, and which introduced the motion. Is this
secret HR stuff that would embarrass Lila? It doesn't seem that way to me.
There've been a dozen news stories on her leaving, and none have reported it was on
wonderful terms all around. So what's the big deal?
Publish the minutes or say "there was no meeting, there are no minutes."