I think that there is a very sensible point here.

Sometimes behind some usergroups there is not a specific community but only few people and sometimes some usergroups are "userpersons".

Being more transparent helps to demonstrate that the whole process has been conducted appropriately but also to have an overview that affiliates have voted really on what their community proposed.

Kind regards

On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 3:28 AM Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:
I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members, 

This is not some functionary volunteer role, nor is it a scholarship to attend some event. The affiliate and the members of the Board of Trustees are both very public facing aspects, when a person is on the Board of Trustees their identity is public https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/ .  It is obvious that a truly  vulnerable person would not even put themselves into a BOT position.  It's important for members of the community to know who their affiliate chose to represent them because it's a reflection of that community.  I know some affiliates actually didnt consult their communities for input into the decision process before the fact so knowing after the fact is at least pretending to be transparent in the voting.



On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 06:01, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think there's anything blithe in pointing out that an after-the-fact promise of secrecy serves no one.  Affiliates had to decide whether to vote without knowing whether the list would be published (but hopefully realizing that the username of their voter would be published, although I'm not sure if this was made clear).  The main effect of post-hoc secrecy here would be to sow confusion and set up unrealistic expectations about future votes; in the last affiliate-selected board seat process, not only was the list of voting affiliates published, but their individual votes were as well: <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbs_presentation_matches_with_stv_py_results.pdf>, and for the reasons Lodewijk describes, we might well wish to return to such full transparency in the future.

If a decision either way had been made and communicated beforehand, affiliate voters could have made an informed decision, but as with most of the rules for this election, it was announced in the middle of the election, rather than in the many months before it.  In any event, I agree with SJ that this is a decision to be made by the elections committee, not WMF staff.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:45 PM Robert Fernandez <wikigamaliel@gmail.com> wrote:
I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members, especially in a community that usually prides itself on the ability to participate anonymously.

That said, perhaps we could publish the names of participating affiliates who affirm the wish to be named publicly. 
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