On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:47, Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l
I fail to understand how requiring public report of publicly-occurring
harassment is a problem.
"Don't be a cunt"
"Stop being hysterical"
+ Far worse actually gets tolerated, and I'm not quoting any here, you
work out why
Anyone feeling they are targeted or harassed with unpleasant personal
comments, especially newer editors, would be INCREDIBLY STUPID to
attempt to complain about it on Wikipedia's ANI. It will boomerang,
and the history of that noticeboard shows that the complainant is
likely to be treated as a troublemaker by the admin corps, with a high
probability of reasons being found to sanction the troublemaker if
they try to answer questions in public.
There's plenty of "unfriendly space" to create a hostile environment
without crossing the boundaries of "free speech" tolerated for long
term contributors, but not newcomers.
My good advice to newer editors is always to discuss bad faith and
nasty aggressive behaviour off-wiki, as it's just not safe to do so
on-wiki, unless you are anonymous and happy to throw away your
account. These behaviours are normal, expected, and even championed
from the top as refreshing expressions of libertarianism.
1. "utter fucking bullshit"