Hi Fae, if you're referring to the discussion on this page, then I
think I make it quite clear why I won't engage with WMF employees
To be sure, I'm not used to having anyone from Lila's team immediately
emailing her through their official company addresses as soon as I ask
a question in a public forum. In this case, the WMF has made it quite
clear that the IRC channels aren't official and/or sponsored by the
WMF, and I was asking about community affairs WRT to those channels.
So my question about why a user was kicked from the channel didn't
have anything to do with the WMF. I still don't understand why this
employee felt it was necessary to bring Lila's attention to "safety
concerns" through official WMF employee channels, although I'm sure he
or she felt it was the right thing to do and I've given them the
benefit of the doubt that it was. Of course, I can't form my own
independent opinion, since a WMF employee revdeleted the rev in
question in the ~10 minutes between when it was first posted and when
I tried clicking on the link.
In any case, it should be made clear that the WMF did not ask me to
disengage with employees and has not yet asked me to stop posting to
Wikipediocracy directly. So far, the organization itself has respected
my individuality; I can only appeal to everyone in the WP community
and all WMF employees to do the same in the future. I will be engaging
with the broader WP community in whatever way I can, but I've made the
hard decision to limit my engagement with WMF employees to public,
logged forums from now on.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 28/05/2014, Lila Tretikov
able to speak with his own voice and ask his own questions. He does not
take direction from me. He will not work for the WMF or engage with the WMF
Thanks for making these distinctions. It is sad to see that your time
and energy is being used so early on in your introduction to the
Wikimedia community, in creating a political distance between yourself
and the public actions of your life partner, due to his casual
curiosity about Wikimedia projects. A curiosity that only manifested
itself shortly after the public announcement of your employment by the
I do not really understand the point being made about not "engaging"
with WMF employees, any active volunteer on Wikimedia projects should
and must be free to engage with WMF employees. The statement does not
appear to match actions over the last 24 hours, with Wil freely making
public comments about his dissatisfaction after conversations
(emails?) with some WMF employees.
Thanks again for clarifying your position during this difficult start
to your engagement.
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