On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Nikola Smolenski smolensk@eunet.yu wrote:
Translation: what we are doing right now is wrong and no one complains too loudly, therefore we may get away with being even more wrong in the future.
No, what we are doing now is not wrong. What we're doing now is uniformly and universally accepted in the en.wp community and nearly all the rest of them. Claiming that it's wrong is like calling black white.
It is not entirely consistent with the as-written text of the license. But it is not wrong. It is what it is, and millions of people, knowing what it says and means, have contributed.
This improves what we actually do. Why would you think it's worse?
No it doesn't. For example, German Wikireaders are published with a list of all the authors at the end, and after this change they wouldn't have to be.
I don't know that listing thousands of authors on popular pages is an improvement over a link saying "Many people wrote and edited this and you can click <here> to see them all".
We're not a co-author credit factory. CC-BY-SA isn't an ego trip for thousands of co-contributors. These are inappropriate uses for article space and page display space.
I want anyone to know what I wrote in Wikipedia, which they can find... by clicking on either a page history, or my account's Special:Contributions page. I don't want anyone to have to wade through a thousand names at the bottom of the article. The new license matches the technical code as written, and community expectations of the biggest WP communities and the vast bulk of the WP communities. One community among many can't stand up and block a new license on the grounds that it's not widely expressive enough.
If de.wp community wants to keep displaying more authors, nothing in the license keeps you from doing so. But, that's wierd, and wrong, and you should not try and impose it on the rest of us. And trying to keep it out of the license approaches the level of active evil.