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Wikipedia should be kept a neutral repository of knowledge, not a social
ground for games. Once you take the path of creating a futile community,
there is no way to talk about the long term goals of the WMF, the
vision, the ethics, the humanity, the knowledge. You just have people
who are here to have fun and to socialize. It would add noise, not signal.
Moreover, I think attracting readers is very different
from attracting
editors. I don't see how it would be positive to convince people to edit
articles with superficial reasons in mind.
My main point is that we could be more fun and accomplish our work better
because we would have more hands doing the work. I don't see doing hard work
and fun as being mutually exclusive.
However external sites could use the content for games or comments (like
Facebook does). This way, the site originating the "fun attitude" would
be distinct from the site about knowledge. Wikipedia would get attention
without being invaded.
Yes, integrating with social networking sites and perhaps other real world
venues would be a good way to add a social side to WMF.
Sydney Poore
On 19/06/2010 23:58, Sydney Poore wrote:
English Wikipedia has numerous contests during
the year. Some people
regularly participate in them and enjoy them.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest is an example of one that
is
ongoing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MILCON
Picture of the year is popular with some people on Commons.
While everyone does not want to be involved in contests, they appeal to
some
people and I see no problem with us introducing
more of them in WMF
projects
to see if they will draw people into the
movement.
I feel the same way about encouraging new ways to get different groups of
people involved with WMF projects.
If gaming can be used to promote an interest in WMF then that is
goodness.
Puzzles, board games, and even more complex
fantasy games using content
might be a draw for some people. If someone wants to develop them I would
not stand in there way.
Combining community service and socializing is very common in community
organizations, and is appealing to many people. By adding more social
components to WMF projects, we will most likely draw in people that
otherwise would not volunteer. I see this as an important tool and one
that
should not be dismissed if we are going to
broaden the base of our
volunteers.
Sydney Poore
(FloNight)
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marc Riddell <
michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net>wroteote:
> on 6/19/10 4:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell at keegan.wiki(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>.
>>
>> There was a great TED speech that I need to look up but don't have the
> time
>> for at the moment. The premise of the presentation is that studies
have
>> shown time and time again that things
like games, prizes, awards and
> other
>> measures of gratitude are only temporary measures to increase
motivation.
>> The folks that work for you that are the
truly motivated ones and
> believers
>> in the process do not ask for these rewards. A pat on the back and a
> "good
>> job, thanks for your work because I value it very much" occasionally is
> the
>> only true recognition that is needed. The other fluff only inspires
>> distraction from the goal because it's creating other little goals
which,
> in
>> turn, become more important than the end result.
>
> Yes! Prizes denote direct competition as in sports or, more subtly, with
> the
> science & arts awards.
>
> Person-to-person affirmation goes a very long way; and is what
> collaboration
> & community should be based upon. Give them the climate, and they will
give
you the
culture.
Marc Riddell
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