You're absolutely right; as the Internet gets bigger and more and more
content is written, archival services are going to become more
powerful as people want to look for stuff that someone else has
pointed them at - the idea has been around for sometime with search
engine caches and the Wayback Machine, but it will be something
interesting to watch.
I think you're right on just archiving on site in order to avoid
difficulties, but right now they need to have that permission as soon
as possible and understand that they can have it again, which it'd be
good if Brad dealt with for us.
Brad: Have your got a hold of the e-mail, or do you still need it to
be forwarded?
On 14/07/06, Andrew Gray <shimgray(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 14/07/06, Mathias Schindler
<mathias.schindler(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/14/06, Jack <jackdt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The USA Library of Congress has requested
permission to include
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict> in their collection of
Internet material concerning the crisis in Darfur.
They wish to
1. archive the page at regular intervals, and
2. publish it on their publicly accessible web site.
They completely reproduce pages for archival purposes: capturing all
identifying site documentation, including URL, trademark, copyright
statement, ownership, publication date
<http://www.loc.gov/webcapture/faq.html>; so the GFDL requirements are
met, but what about the trademark/logo? Who needs to give permission
or refuse?
WikiMedia OTRS ticket: 2006071110012086
LC Reference: Darfur 88979 CD
I remember a similar request from 2004 during the Tsunami (okay, the
actual request should have been from january-february 2005) from the
US LOC for a collection about this. Maybe someone is able to find the
ticket and how we reacted to this. As far as I am concerned, their
request is fine and I consider it a shame that libraries are requested
to ask for this to preserve the cultural heritage, no matter if it is
on dead trees or on a DVD.
It's the major problem with web archiving - if you get 10% response
you're lucky. Most have grudgingly accepted they have to go with
"archive on spec" and take down afterwards if there's a complaint. I
strongly, strongly suggest we figure out a way to have a blanket
permissions policy for this sort of thing; it's exactly what we want
to encourage, though there's generally less need to archive us than
with most people...
Whilst I remember, the rather cunning trick developed to get around
permissions (at least for the biggest web archivers, the
national-level people), is to quietly redefine legal deposit, so that
the deposit libraries have the right to make and store copies of any
material published to the web in their jurisdiction. Defining
"jurisdiction" is fun, of course, but they seem to have knocked
something together; France is working on theirs, the UK has passed the
enabling legislation but hasn't put it into force yet, and I think
Denmark's got it up and running.
(I was lucky enough to attend a one-day conference on internet
archiving - it was a bit accidental, we hadn't quite realised it was
directed at the big players - which was remarkably interesting. It's
going to be a fun field to watch)
--
- Andrew Gray
andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk
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