Maybe 500 was a bad example, but I meant that by having people offer rewards for
extensions, we can have them developed/evaluated faster.
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From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:07:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
Hoi,
You have no clue how much money has already been invested in Semantic
MediaWiki. This is not where the problem is. The problem is in having
capacity to evaluate what is there. The capacity to evaluate and integrate
functionality is key. It is for this reason that I am so happy that a tool
is being developed for the testing of extensions. This is intended to
automate some of the work and thereby make it easier to adopt extensions.
A scheme that I have been thinking of is: get us 50K$, split it between WMF
and SMW, have the WMF evaluate and assess code with SMW as its priority and
have SMW fix the issues that come up from the evaluation.
NB Five hundred dollars does not cut it. A *really *good commercial
programmer may bill you for this amount for a days work.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/1/16 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com>
Well what I proposed encouraged people to prioritize.
For example, if 100
people donate 5 dollars each for semantic mediawiki, it might encourage an
outside developer to work on it, freeing up staff and saving money.
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From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
Hoi,
If we want to decrease the backlog, we should not invest in more
extensions.
We should invest in capacity to assess the extensions that are waiting. We
should invest in capacity to triage our problems, we should invest in
fixing
the problems that we know off.
We have asked the public to help us, they gave us the 6 million dollar we
asked for. We asked the Stanton Foundation and they gave us 890.000 dollar
to improve the usability of the English language Wikipedia. There is
software like Semantic MediaWiki, software to localise the Commons
categories to name but two that are not considered at all because of a lack
of capacity to assess what is out there.
If anything we need developers that take care of THAT backlog. If anything
we need senior developers who will assist in making the software mature
enough so that it can be used on our production servers. When you consider
that the Tool server tools are not localised, and when you realise that as
a
consequence these tools have only a limited use you will agree with me that
we first of all need to strengthen the fundamentals before we put another
floor on the existing building.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/1/16 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com>
Well if we want to decrease the backlog, we could
suggest that people put
up money for desired extensions.... I know its come up before and been
rejecte, but it might attract people to develop stuff.
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From: Marcus Buck <me(a)marcusbuck.org>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:45:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename
Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven:
I am sure he will handle the rename as soon as he
can, but patience is
key.
cough, please be patient! It's only
been three years since mo.wikipedia
was closed. The case will be handled as soon as one of our service team
members becomes available.
Marcus Buck
We got 6 million bucks, ain't we? Perhaps we should extend our tech
staff a little bit. (Looking at the Bugzilla backlog, looking at the
many features we are waiting for since years [global preferences for
example], etc.) I don't suggest that Brion and the tech staff do a bad
job. I'm sure they are doing their best. But obviously they need more
help.
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