In a message dated 11/25/2010 3:31:07 PM Pacific
Standard Time,
geniice(a)gmail.com writes:
On 25 November 2010 22:15,
<WJhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:
We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone
is an established
editor.
Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis
We have flags already to mark people as
established editors in addition
to
that.
I for one have no wish to turn requests for rollback in a mini RFA
more than has already happened.
on 11/25/10 8:35 PM, WJhonson(a)aol.com at WJhonson(a)aol.com wrote:
The police always think they are doing a fine job and
don't need any
accountability.
All democracies have checks and balances. Those who do not, are police
states.
Our single hierarchical structure is just such a system with no checks and
balances.
The point of having three parts to the US Government is to ensure that if
you are harassed by the police you can turn to your legislator, if you are
attacked by your legislator, you can turn to a judge. Wikipedia has a single
structure. If you are harassed by an admin, you have no recource except to
another admin. The police policing the police. I see no justice in that
system. Plenty of abuse. If you're not an admin, you have no power
whatsoever over a single admin deciding to silence you. And other police
simply back
them up.
That Geni, is the entire nature of the police state. And why a police
state is not a system of government under which enlightened people wish to
operate. It only takes one run-in of this sort to send the promising editor
away. Suggesting this is an appropriate system to retain only shows the sort
of
disconnect Admins have with Editors.
You assume that any editor who wants to protect themselves from this sort
of abuse should become an admin. Tantamount to any citizen wishing to
protect themselves from the Police should become a policeman. I find that
sort of
attitude to be.... alarming.
Will Johnson
Very, very well said, Will. But that's exactly the way it is. That's the way
it is when people who construct and manage an environment like this don't
know the first thing about working constructively with other people. And
that's the way it will be until it can't afford to be that way anymore.
Marc Riddell