I mostly agree with Gregory that the creation of a social media framework
within Wikipedia would greatly increase the workload of some Wikipedians, in
a number of ways, while making only a very, very tenuous claim to the
increase of our productivity.
The fact that the "low hanging fruit" is all mostly picked is indeed a
systemic problem which naturally is reducing our stats, but I think the real
problem is the consequence of that, which is that the early pickers have
formed a significant core of experienced users, which is good in a sense,
but also bad in that it raises the bar for all new users. What we SHOULD be
talking about is not social media, but more robust tutorials and
walkthroughs for new users as they go through their first edits, and their
first created articles, &c.
David Moran
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Anthony
<wikimail(a)inbox.org> wrote:
Well, I disagree. I don't see how keeping
users "at our sites" as long
as
possible is a method to meet that mission. I
don't see how having users
do
their social networking at
wikiwhatever.org helps
people develop
educational
content under a free license. Getting users to
come to "our sites" in
the
first place can be helpful, and creating plugins
for sites like Facebook
would do that.
* By making contacts with other experts from the same field by using
social networking possibilities of Wikimedia projects. While this is
alone a part of our goals, this would raise quality of their
involvement in Wikimedia projects.
* By keeping *their* knowledge (i.e. their personal work) inside of
their "Wikipedia advanced profiles" and sharing relevant references
with others. Conclusion is similar to the previous.
* By on site for a lot of time, like a lot of people are a lot of time
on FB and similar sites; which would enhance communication between
participants and work on new knowledge.
* By making a strong connection their scientific work (which don't
need to be free, or even public; which they would be able to keep
privately) with Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, which would
produce their higher involvement in the projects.
* By having [creative] fun at Wikimedia sites, which would produce
their higher involvement in Wikimedia projects.
* (And, possibly, much more reasons which one HR manager may list here
better than I am able.)
While I don't have anything against making such project out of
Wikimedia, I don't see that any project of that type has such
potential.
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