Hi all,
I think these are good and relevant questions, but I'd suggest you keep the
discussion where it's best placed – on the talk page of the Roles &
Responsibility scoping document talk page:
Paulo has already started a discussion over there. Kirill, it would be
great if you could add your opinion and experience there as well.
Best regards
Cornelius
On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 15:11, Kiril Simeonovski <kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
P.S. I would also like to add the other committees in
the movement such
like the grantmaking committees. My first go would be the Board of Trustees
but it is better to see if someone who knows exactly can provide more
details.
Best,
Kiril
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM Kiril Simeonovski <
kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paulo,
This is an excellent question. I am curious to find out that too.
Best,
Kiril
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I'm not familiar with this specific situation as well, apart
> from
> having been informed by my affiliate that WMF had informed it I was
under
> some sanction that probably I was unaware of,
related to affiliates I
was
> not part of and episotes I do not took part.
>
> This is an outraging, appalling and unbelievable behavior from the
> Wikimedia Foundation in general, and AffCom in particular. I really
would
> like to get to the bottom of this, and more
than have it reverted, I
> actually want to know who planted the false information about me there
> which led to this situation.
>
> I hope there is some way to effectively and officially demand and
internal
> inquiry inside the Wikimedia Foundation over
this situation.
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
>
>
>
>
> Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda,
> 6/05/2019
> à(s) 10:20:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not familiar with this specific situation, but I agree that more
> > transparency and accountability would be good.
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 6, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulosperneta(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A few days ago the Wikimedia affiliate I belong to was officially
> > informed,
> > > by a WMF source, that I'm being subject to a until now unknown
> sanction,
> > > with an accusation from AffCom I can only describe as baseless and
> > > fraudulent, relating to a a situation between two affiliates, dealt
> with
> > by
> > > AffCom more than one year ago, of which I was never part of,
occurred
> > more
> > > than one year ago. I was never informed of this.
> > >
> > > This is not the first time AffCom engages in this sort of appalling
> > > behavior. As far as I know, WMPT is still waiting for the
accusations
> > made
> > > by AffCom last year, which led to its suspension, to be
substantiated.
> > > AffCom never substantiated anything
related to that, with the excuse
> of a
> > > need for secrecy.
> > >
> > > How, I ask you all as members of the Movement, how come the
Wikimedia
> > > Movement allowed for such a
secretive, arbitrary, apparently
unchecked
> > and
> > > very much powerful institution to grow and thrive like this in its
> > middle,
> > > overseeing and effectively controlling the relation of all of us
(both
> > > affiliates and individuals) and the
WMF?
> > >
> > > More important than that, what can be done about this? Where one can
> > appeal
> > > to, when presented with such fraudulent, baseless, secretive,
> > > unsubstantiated accusations by a body which was supposed to be above
> all
> > > suspicion?
> > >
> > > Can an internal inquiry be demanded somewhere at the Wikimedia
> Foundation
> > > over the activities and decisions of AffCom, in the same way we do
> with
> > > suspicious activity by checkusers and supervisors, with the
Ombudsman
> > > Commission?
> > >
> > > Looking forward for any help and insight on this,
> > >
> > > Paulo - DarwIn
> > > Wikimedia Portugal
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