Vector2022 has, actually, a place called Tools. It comes in the edit menu, just below the language switcher. The problem is that... most of them are not tools. Indeed, the Design Team decided to bury the sister projects inside the tools menu. So, yes, we do have a place called tools, where actual tools could be located.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:49 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158@hotmail.com> wrote:

Toolhub is still something external!

Let me introduce the point: the Research team has been working in great tools to help with editing. They made an exciting showcase in Wikimania. None of them are reachable while editing.

We are here in the same case: the translate tool could accomodate a suggestion button that feeds from the varied tools we have.

I agree. To me it has always seemed odd that Mediawiki's *core interface* has no large friendly button called "Tools". It could lead by default to project-space:Tools, i.e. to Wikipedia:Tools on Wikipedia. From then on, it's up to the community to curate the page usefully, probably including explaining about Toolforge and directing to its various directory meta-tools. But it's that first *invitation* and *discoverability* of the very notion of tools that's missing, for even some experienced editors.

If some people agree, perhaps they'd be interested in starting a discussion on Mediawiki.org making the case for it, addressing the (inevitable) objections people may have, discussing the design and location of the button, etc. I don't know if the Foundation's Product team has thoughts about this, but even if it is not currently on any team's roadmap, it can be useful to work out a proposal with broad community support for how it could be done. The actual implementation would be technically simple, and mostly a question of the skin design: location, spacing, mobile, etc.