"Since you are unable to imagine many actions more chilling than reporting
bullying and harassment to an appropriate authority, let me suggest
something that might be equally chilling -- calling for the banning from
the list of someone because you disagree with what they have to say."
That wasn't what Robert said, nor was there "bullying and harassment"
coming from anyone other than you, Rogol. This kind of passive-aggressive
straw-manning is an example of precisely why you have worn out your welcome
here.
-Dan
Dan Rosenthal
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonfors(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Robert
If someone posts to an email discussion list owned and run by their
employer, using an email account provided by their employer, with a
signature block giving the name of their employer and their name and
position with that employer, and if their line manager is not only a
regular reader but a participant in discussions on the list, as recently as
yesterday, then it may reasonably be presumed that they expect their
employer to be aware of their posting.
Since you are unable to imagine many actions more chilling than reporting
bullying and harassment to an appropriate authority, let me suggest
something that might be equally chilling -- calling for the banning from
the list of someone because you disagree with what they have to say.
Roibéard
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Robert Fernandez <wikigamaliel(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Since Rogol has followed through on his threat he
should be banned from
the
list, or we should have a public statement from
the moderators regarding
why they will not do so.
I can't imagine many actions that would have a more chilling effect on
participation here than one of this list's most frequent posters
contacting
your employer because he disagrees with what you
have to say.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Joseph Seddon <jseddon(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Since you kindly emailed my line manage Rogol, I
wanted to confirm that
my
choice of words were very carefully chosen.
And I stand by them.
Seddon
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
domedonfors(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Joseph
> >
> > I chose my wording quite carefully, and suggest that you do so too.
I
> said
> > that the proposal "involves", not "is equal to" real-life
identity
To
> the
> > extent that real-life identities are involved, it is reasonable to
ask
> how
> > that personal information is going to be handled. For some reason,
you
> > seem keen to derail that part of the
discussion by elevating a
quibble
> over
> > your hasty misunderstanding of my wording into an accusation, which I
> > reject, of generalised misconduct. If you have some comment to make
> about
> > the handling of personal information, please do so.
> >
> > May I suggest that you withdraw your original posting, apologise to
the
> > membership of this list for the
unconstructive nature of your
posting,
and
to me for its aggressive, insulting and incorrect
content.
Alternatively,
> perhaps you would prefer me to ask your line manager whether this is
the
> > sort of behaviour that she expects you to exhibit in a public forum.
> >
> > Reginald
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Joseph Seddon <
jseddon(a)wikimedia.org>
>
wrote:
>
> > Real identity does not equal real-life identity. You can mask your
> > pseudonymous identity and pose as a third party similarly
pseudonymous
> > > individual.
> > >
> > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
> > >
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