Jimbo will be talking with Thomas, so let's table this discussion until he and ChapCom are finished looking around, ok?
________________________________ From: Porantim porantim@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Jimbo, look, nobody here are in doubt about the honesty of this or those person.
The discussion here is not about the people, is about the positions. Is about the actions.
Sorry, Jimbo, but I believe, nobody here really can believe in a maniqueist discussion like that.
I don't care if Thomas is a beatifull guy, if he can cook very well or if he smells good. This is not the point.
The point here is: Thomas is one of the people who deny the debate. This is the fact.
Of course I want Thomas close to us, fighting with us, but I cant't believe in dictatorship.
If you really want to help us, you can speak with your friend Thomas about those problemas. What do you think?
Saludos.
-- Porantim
** Sorry about my bad english. **
2008/11/25 Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com
Nathan wrote:
The question is, if the characterization of the Wikimedia Brasil is
accurate
(i.e. comprised mainly of non-editors, hostile to editors, authoritarian
to
the extent of banning discussion of chapter composition and goals, etc.) what can be done? The answer may be nothing at all, and its possible (in light if Jimmy's email) that there is a misunderstanding at the source of this problem.
Having spent 3 days there working with Thomas morning to night, I think it is almost certainly some kind of misunderstanding. Editors are very welcome, there is no hostility to editors, and there is no authoritarianism at all. It is actually quite funny and ironic that this charge is being put forward, because Thomas very much takes the opposite approach from authoritarianism.
--Jimbo
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