I think it's something to bear in mind. Yay, more information on
Wikipedia, and more information freely available to the world - but at
the same time we tell our readers to use the references to verify the
information, which they can't do if it's not openly available.
I think the best thing is to reference things to sources everyone can
access - if that's not possible, then use the closed links. But don't
encourage closed links at the cost of open ones.
Thanks,
Mike
On 26/1/22 18:20:57, Rebecca O'Neill wrote:
> I understand where you are coming from Mike, but I'm a bit stumped by it
> at the same time. Do you apply the same logic to editors using expensive
> print books they happen to have access through to some sort of
> connection or other privilege? I often think about this in the opposite
> way, wrestling information from behind paywalls into the open, I don't
> know how I feel about anything that would discourage that.
>
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 17:49, Mike Peel <email@mikepeel.net
> <mailto:email@mikepeel.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> While the Wikipedia Library is definitely great at providing editors
> resources to find more information to Wikipedia articles - it does also
> have the drawback that it makes it much harder for readers to verify
> that information. It can even cause problems for other editors who
> haven't opted to join it, when they are working on the same articles as
> those that have.
>
> Have the issues this creates for readers been documented/discussed
> somewhere by the Wikipedia Library team? Do the tools point towards
> where the information might be publicly available outside of the
> Library? (I've seen some references being added that I could find
> publicly available through some googling.)
>
> I can't complain too much about this, since it's sadly generally how
> the
> world works - particularly coming from the academic side where I don't
> even see most journal paywalls from my work internet connection.
> However, I think it's also important to have a balanced viewpoint here,
> particularly since we're much more on the side of open access than
> encouraging links to closed access resources.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 24/1/22 15:39:43, Todd Allen wrote:
> > Excellent work. Thanks to all who worked on this project and made
> it happen.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:10 AM Sam Walton
> <swalton@wikimedia.org <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org>
> > <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We've just published a blog post summarising the new features and
> > functionality available to active Wikipedia editors in The
> Wikipedia
> > Library:
> >
> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/01/19/the-wikipedia-library-accessing-free-reliable-sources-is-now-easier-than-ever/
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/01/19/the-wikipedia-library-accessing-free-reliable-sources-is-now-easier-than-ever/>
> >
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/01/19/the-wikipedia-library-accessing-free-reliable-sources-is-now-easier-than-ever/ <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/01/19/the-wikipedia-library-accessing-free-reliable-sources-is-now-easier-than-ever/>>
> >
> > The Wikipedia Library is a tool providing active Wikipedia
> editors
> > with free access to otherwise-paywalled resources, including
> > journals, books, newspapers, magazines, and databases. Over
> the past
> > 5-10 years the library has built up a large collection of content
> > from a wide range of publishers.
> >
> > In the past couple of years we've been finalising the centralised
> > Wikipedia Library tool used for accessing all this content:
> > https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/
> <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/>
> > <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/
> <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/>>. I'm really pleased to
> > announce that we've finished work on some long-requested and
> planned
> > features which make it really simple to use!
> >
> > The library now has:
> >
> > * Proxy-based authentication for direct access of resources
> > without a secondary login
> > * A centralised search feature for browsing multiple
> collections
> > from one place
> > * An on-wiki notification to let editors know about the library
> > when they have crossed the eligibility threshold (rolling
> out in
> > stages throughout January)
> >
> > As the project I first joined the Wikimedia Foundation to work on
> > years ago I'm personally thrilled that we've finally been able to
> > deploy all these features!
> >
> > If you're eligible to use the library (500+ edits, 6+ months
> > editing) you can jump in and start using the library straight
> away.
> > We're now working on expanding and diversifying the content
> > available in the library, so let us know on the suggestions
> page if
> > there are collections you want us to make available:
> > https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/
> <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/>
> > <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/
> <https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/>>
> >
> > If the tool isn't currently localised into your language, you can
> > translate it on TranslateWiki:
> >
> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikipedia_Library_Card_Platform
> <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikipedia_Library_Card_Platform>
> >
> <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikipedia_Library_Card_Platform <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikipedia_Library_Card_Platform>>
> >
> > We're planning to host some Office Hours, which will be a
> chance to
> > get a walkthrough of how to use the library, as well as
> discuss your
> > research needs and requests for new collections with the
> team. Look
> > out for more on that in the coming weeks.
> >
> > --
> > Sam Walton
> > Product Manager, The Wikipedia Library
> >
> > swalton@wikimedia.org <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org>
> >
> > <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org <mailto:swalton@wikimedia.org>>
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