Thank you very much for starting this thread.

I think that's a very important topic. I have been working on related portals for several years now and I am always available to provide my little inputs wherever I can. Some projects have their project space: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4655446 (see the sitelinks), I agree that we may think of working on global best practices now (followed by or simultaneously a policy, if needed).

One think, I have felt, needs more attention for "Deceased Wikimedian" portal is "privacy". If an editor wanted to remain anonymous (suppose User:Editor09112021), and the plaque/obit should respect the privacy.

That's my initial thoughts on this.

ইতি,
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মঙ্গল, ৯ নভেম্বর, ২০২১ তারিখে ৫:৪৮ AM টায় তারিখে Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> লিখেছেন:
Personally I think we should validate first a global policy on deceased users. After many years of SUL it's still very fragmented from platform to platform. A centralized procedure to confirm death and how to block account would be a good starting step.

After that, i think we need a standard obituary page on meta, that can be multilingual of course. Do you know https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deceased_editors exists? Probably not or Pier Luigi would be there.

Once you have that, you can go for more initiatives on a solid base.

For example, you can get some agreement to give some names of astronomical objects to former wikimedians (real name or username, if code allows it). There are 1000s of them waiting for a name (for asteroids, the system was in stand by some years ago, not sure when it will resume), but just send the list and people will pick them soon or later. You can ask for a publication such as a booklet. Or a plaque somewhere, maybe at the WMF office... honestly it's not my goal to pick one now.

In any case, you need a standardized system or you can't do these initiatives properly. You'll end up with one person remembered and the other one forgotten because their friends on wiki are not in the "right" circle of more active users. You have to give a fair chance to all users to be included in the list, with a standardize guideline on every wiki.

This is something that after years of SUL we should have and we don't... to my surprise. When I wrote some to-do-list on the topic years ago I was almost sure it would have taken less than 2-3 years to finally write a unified guideline. I find some long-term users who are 100% sure that it is "like this" or "like that" but it really isn't. One day I will create a stub for a page on meta just to see if it grows.

Alessandro


Il martedì 9 novembre 2021, 00:52:02 CET, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> ha scritto:


I'd like us to consider a more serious set of obits, after the fashion of the astronomers.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:25 PM Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 04:46, Camelia Boban <camelia.boban@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everybody. 

Today, on the social media channels, we received the news about another wikimedian who is passed away: Steve Suleeman (User:Stephensuleeman from idwiki). As others in the recent or distant past: Spasimir Pilev (User:Спасимир Пилев from bgwiki), Pier Luigi Rocco (User:Moroboshi from itwiki), Elena Sanz Queiruga (User:ElsaBornFree from eswiki), User:SlimVirgin from enwiki, Krzysztof Machocki (User:Halibutt from plwiki).

For these losses, I think we - as a community, through the Wikimedia Foundation - need to set up a fund to build a commemorative plaque to remember all the wikimedians we have lost. 

I would suggest it to be a thought from the community, extended also to all other major events of a wikimedian's life (marriage, birth of a child). We know a wikimedian often sacrifices the free time, dedicating a large part of their own real life to our projects and the movement. Would be a recognition from the community for the work done and a memory for the families, a "small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians" as someone said.

I know that some affiliates are already doing this (eq. Wikimedia Indonesia), would be a lovely idea to do it in a centralized way at the level of the whole movement.

What do you think?
Camelia
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