I mean no disrespect to anyone. Unfortunately, this all hinges on strength of character. I am confident that many are like me and little experience with any of these users. I can muddle through Portuguese, so if someone can point me to where discussion broke down or where there is proof, then we will have something to go on.
________________________________ From: Aphaia aphaia@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:06:04 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Geoffrey, I have been working with Luis and other guys as translators for years. Their devotion is much appreciated and I know them thoughtful, patient and experience Wikimedians who are deeply concerned about their project and thus its relationship to the real world.
Personally I am afraid Jimmy is too relying on his personal recent experience and tend to weigh less those people from the lusophone editing community than it should be, specially in the circumstance no objection toward them and support for the "chapter guys" has come from the editing community. "Believe me, he is a good guy" is no strong argument at least for me which esteem those wikipedian's long experience, devotion and their usual patient attitude to deal with things.
Cheers,
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd@yahoo.com wrote:
If you are convinced that this is not personal, and that there is an issue, then please provide evidence. Otherwise, this looks like bunch of people who are unhappy because their proposal wasn't passed.
Geoffrey Plourde
From: Porantim porantim@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:40:29 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Jimmy, again, the problem isn't personal. Please, dont't try to take this way.
-- Porantim
2008/11/25 Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com
Porantim wrote:
The point here is: Thomas is one of the people who deny the debate. This
is
the fact.
Of course I want Thomas close to us, fighting with us, but I cant't
believe
in dictatorship.
If you really want to help us, you can speak with your friend Thomas
about
those problemas. What do you think?
In my experience with Thomas, he does not seem like the kind of person who would be denying the opportunity for people to debate, and indeed, he was quite clear with me that he's not a dictator (indeed, I got quite the opposite idea from him, that he's a believer in lots of independent action loosely coordinated... the wiki way).
I am meeting Thomas on Friday, and of course this will be our main topic of conversation.
I really think these issues should be quite easy to resolve.
--Jimbo
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