Hoi,

The best competition to the English Wikipedia? Any other Wikipedia. The Wikimedia Foundation increasingly puts its effort outside the borders of the USA. As a techie I am really pleased with a full fledged data centre in France. Then there is the Abstract Wikipedia, given that facts are findable and the advent of AI generated texts, it has the potential to give the staid English Wikipedia a run for its money.

English Wikipedia is for me a bastion of conservatism. They consider anything outside of their direct influence problematic and at the same time technically they rely on Commons and Wikidata. However Wikidata has not enough sources it is said while repeatedly it has been shown to have more sources than English Wikipedia itself. References are considered fixed while Wikidata shows how what is used as a reference gets debunked. English Wikipedia could be aware of it if they cared at all..

Anyway, I hardly edit Wikipedia anymore. The politics of it all take too much time and effort. However, I still find a niche for myself in the Wikimedia ecosystem.

Thanks,

GerardM

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 05:34, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Last I heard, Wikipedia is not for sale, so not much point in persuading
someone to try to buy it. Also some real competition could be good for
Wikipedia, and for that matter, good for the Wikimedia Foundation. It would
also be very interesting to see how a real challenge to English Wikipedia
would be organized. All the previous attempts have failed, often quite
dismally. If it were to work better, many of us would probably join it, if
it turns out to be a thing one could join.
Many of us are loyal to the concept of free knowledge, not so much to the
platform it is presented on.
Cheers,
Peter

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The last part of the great wall of text appears to persuade him to invest in
alternatives instead of buying Wikipedia. For him Wiki is like a sole
McDonald's in a food dessert, and that the solution is to open new
"restaurants".
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