Hi, thank you for your positive feedback, Ting Chen,
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de wrote:
I agree with you totally that the Classic Chinese has a tremendous cultural value. I myself had studied it from the fifth class until to the eleventh class. And among the few books I took from China to Germany and kept them through all my movings was Guwen Guanzhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guwen_Guanzhi). I am a big fan of some articles collected in that book. I can read texts from Zhou until the Qing-dynasty and had wrote classical poems at my youth myself. That's not the question.
I also totally agree with you and Tim and Aphaia that it is important to keep this cultural value and maybe find some place in our projects to keep it alive.
What I wonder is, is there a meaning to write an encyclopedia with this language. Who would look for Olympic Games in a classical chinese Wikipedia, except the people who write the article themselves?
It may be as same as the discussion on Latin Wikipedia when we discussed what word was the most appropriate for "links" (then we decided nexus would be) or an unfinished discussion if Classical or ecclesiastic Latin should be picked up for "spoken" Latin Wikiquote for the sake of NPOV ...
On the other hand, I totally agree with you and H.T.Chien that literacy in Classical Chinese is a lively part of our common tradition and Wikimedia project as the sum of human knowledge shouldn't lack it. Maybe writing an article in Classic Chinese could fit more to a course of Wikiversity, but I am not sure about it.
Another problem in this sphere might be to introduce auto-conversion to zhwikisource; currently some classical texts are available only in simplified Chinese, and it makes its portability less to the text traditional Chinese is preferred in my humble opinion.
Ting
Ted (Hsiang-Tai) Chien wrote:
Personally I do not think Classical Chinese is a dead language. Here in Taiwan I studied Classical Chinese when I'm in school (junior / senior high). In our higher education, Classical Chinese is an optional subject as common sense course. And we still have lots of poem writers here using the language.
As Aphaia previously stated, Japanese people are also using the Classical Chinese in their daily lives, maybe more than Chinese people.
If you think the language is dead, it's your own opinion. It's still alive somewhere in the world. But, yap, it might be my own opinion, too. ;)
Regards, Ted / H.T. User:Htchien
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ting Chen Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:12 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Klassical Chinese
Jesse Plamondon-Willard wrote:
Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Because at the time it was created, we had not yet given [...] team of rules lawyers the power to decide all wiki creation issues.
There
was a sentiment that we as a community should make our own decisions
Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sounds like a reasonable compromise. Have the Board approve it and
No community decision? :)
That's the reason why I put the question here.
Ting
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