Please, first read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_dissonance .
On http://vo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patikos:Shortpages :
(jenotem) Menotey [jöläts 0] > blanked by 87.97.23.48.pool.invitel.hu , wich has undid by my dinamic IP adrss
(jenotem) Mirnav [jöläts 16] > striked and deleted
(jenotem) Nünots Volapükaklub Linz-Urfahr [jöläts 101] (jenotem) Timabled Volapükik [jöläts 102] (jenotem) Yelabuk Volapükakluba valemik Nedänik [jöläts 102] (jenotem) Volapükakongred di Friedrichshafen [jöläts 104] (jenotem) Yelanunod Volapükaklub in Leitmeritz [jöläts 104]
^ all with one phase and one category. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_dissonance again.
On Dec 28, 2007 3:15 PM, Daniel Arnold arnomane@gmx.de wrote:
Am Freitag, 28. Dezember 2007 16:42:20 schrieb Luiz Augusto:
[...] Look the timestamp... I really love the worry that de.wikipedia (and de.projects in general) have to quality. It is great to have. But on de projects. Please avoid [[Cultural dissonance]]. Your community thinks something, others communities not necessarily share it.
Well I can "reveal" even more. I noticed this whole matter in a personal meeting of Wikipedians from Nuremberg in Ansbach on 21. December (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:N ürnberg/Berichte#21._Dezember_2007).
Among other topics we which interwikis are an advantage to our multilingual readers (look at the article [[Sun]] it is a challenge to find the interwikis in the languages you are interested in).
Thus we naturally discussed about Volapük Wikipedias "articles" and their resulting interwikis and our past efforts to solve he issue *together* with vo.wikipedians. One of our finding was that vo.wikipedians even consider masses of articles *without a single sentence* as articles and properly proposing some of those articles for deletion as vandalism (just today Smeira said in one case a little sorry combined with a further demand to follow some strange rules).
On independence of Wikipedia communities:
- A Wikipedia that generates interwikis to such contentless articles en
masse destroys one of our common strengths: Our cool interwiki system.
- Furthermore they challenge the reputation of the whole international
Wikipedia community to outsiders.
- And above all. There are some unchangeable rules in every Wikipedia
imposed by the Wikimedia Foundation. One of them is NPOV and vo.wikipedia in its current stage simply has no chance to get somewhere near NPOV because of their methods choosen.
So we all Wikipedias have mutal responsibility. If a Wikipedia is denies any responsibility for others and ignores (even temporarily) some unchangeable rules this community has to face the fact that they loose their independence until they are on common ground again.
I would never impose de.wikipedia's "rules" on others (heck even I do not agree with some of these "rules", see http://arnomane.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/relevanz-ist-irrelevant/), just the common ground with a differentiated request (keeping all non-minor articles of Volapük and moving it to the Incubator).
Arnomane
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