Am 13.08.2014 21:53 schrieb "Magnus Manske"
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb "Magnus
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER <
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
> > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske
> > > > <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >> It's probably fine for "modern" viewing, although
it's hard to
> > > that
> > > >> you get to the file page via the little Commons icon for people
> > > all
> > > >> likelihood) have never seen that icon, or visited Commons.
> > >
> > > > Indeed, the icon to the File: page is currently very opaque.
> > > > preparing for a round of possible changes to the viewing
> > > > potentially including
> > > > - moving caption above the fold so readers don't have to hunt for
> > > > - moving disable action
> > > > - potentially eliminating the below-the-fold panel entirely
> > > > - emphasizing the File: page more prominently as the canonical
> > > > of metadata
> > > > - separating out download/use actions more clearly
> > > >
> > > > These changes will need to be carefully tested/validated. If you
> > > > to take a look at an early early
(!) prototype (!!), see
> > > > http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo
> > >
> > > magnus, do these changes make you turn it on again? if not, what
> > > to be better?
> > >
> > I think this is a non-issue. It took one click to get to the image
now it takes two. That's my main
"problem" with it.
As I said, I'm not the target audience for this. I hope.
to give back the one click experience one would need two entry points. a
tab or a toolbox link to start mediaviewer, and standard behavior on the
images. for one link more in the gui everybody would be happy?
Thanks for trying, but I wouldn't like to have some "click confusion" to
added on my part. This is not really the issue
that's being discussed
Some people felt that MediaViewer is too buggy to be
default right now.
disagreed. Disagreement escalated. This needs to calm
down again. A quick
single-point tech fix won't make it go away, I'm afraid.
haha, yes, if you express it like that i agree. i was suggesting this more
as a permanent solution, in the lines of googles "images" tab when
presenting search results. it is well established and simple to grasp. one
click less to get what one wants, one option less. the user always has both
choices. bugs of course stay bugs. such a media tab would additionally
allow to not only present images out of the article, but some search result
out of commons if desired. later on it might allow a new workflow for
editing by selecting one of the images and have a "include in the article"
choice. the search box could be adjusted to find text or media depending
which tab is selected.