On 29 April 2013 21:10, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey
So while I really regret your decision and hope that you will reconsider I would like to ask you something.
Or, ironically, putting together a reallocation grant. Here's another hen-and-egg problem for you all. We saw little value in settling the remaining funds from the 2010-11 grants because the FDC results will
change
everything anyway. Ironically the WMF and FDC became convinced that this
is
a valid reason to retrospectively disqualify us.
But you say "we" … We refers to WMHK I assume, but did you do this after a discussion with the Grants Programme, or did you decide this on your own?
I work for the non-profit sector, and there is not way that any
organisation I know could get away with something like that I am afraid. If you are given money for a reason, you cannot simply decide to take it as an advance on a possible next grant without agreement of the party that supplied you with the grant. I am sorry, but this is not Irony, this is governance…
From my reply to THO (also on this thread): "We have replied multiple times
that we want the remaining funds from the 2010-11 grants to be considered in conjunction with the FDC proposal. (ie. the FDC proposal is the reallocation request.) This is because it is logistically impractical for us to return any funds to WMF before the end of Wikimania."
Additionally I see that the community consultation phase asked for the annual report and you stated that it would be available on the WMHK website after the meeting of the 16th of March… I wanted to go through it, but could not find it on the home page (I would assume its under documentation?) Can you point me to it?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Hong_Kong_2011-12_Annual_Repo... (or scroll halfway down the proposal page)
And again: the FDC stated more reasons to turn down the request,not just the fact that WMHK was not in compliance, they obviously spent a significant amount of time discussing this...
Jan-Bart
Cheers, Craig Franklin
On 29 April 2013 17:25, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com
wrote:
On 29 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not familiar with the case, but reading that page, it seems that
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_HK/Education_Toolkits_For_Lib...
might also have played a role for the FDC's recommendation?
Indeed, yet it looks like there has been no (public) follow up by the
paid
WMF grants staff for over a month. In addition,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikime... still be an eligible entity.
Winifred/Asaf, please can you clarify whether WMHK is still an eligible entity and what follow up was done after that message a month ago?
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