Hoi,
Jussi-Ville my question to you: are we a talking shop or are we to do what
we aim to do?
Thanks,
GerardM
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Ray as a candidate to the board of trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation,
you
are now in the race to win votes. That makes you
a politician and you
have
to say and do the political things in order to
win. I know and respect
you
enough that I expect different shades of grey as
a consequence.
When you ask people to do a task, when you give people the responsibility
to
do a job you either give the authority to do the
job or you do not. The
language committee has as its task to be responsible for the process to
create functioning projects in new languages and new projects in existing
languages. The objective is to create new languages that are objectively
the
language they say they are and to ensure that
there is a reasonable
chance
for these projects to succeed. As a consequence a
policy was formulated.
This policy has clear benefits. There have been people pushing their
point
of view to change the policy. Solutions have been
proposed that have as a
consequence that people have to do things in order to have their POV
taken
in consideration. When they do not want to do
this, It is their choice
and
it is for them to live with the consequences.
It is exactly because the language committee has the authority to insist
on
the implementation of its policies that it is a
functioning committee.
When
the community is free to discuss and force
changes to the policy at all
time
because they do not like that their exception
will not be granted, then
the
amount of time spend on endless talk will kill
off the interest in being
part of what will become a dysfunctional committee.
Ray my question to you: are we a talking shop or are we to do what we aim
to
do.
NB I am extremely happy and grateful that the new projects that have been
approved by the board have been created.
Thanks Tim !!
Thanks,
GerardM
Without commenting on any of the contentions between Ray and Gerard
apparent in this message, it does highlight a glaring omission in
the relative powershareing definitions in bylaws of the foundation
and committee and communities and projects and individual
contributor relations.
No one has ever clarified what the precise role of the committees
is. Not as a general case. Each one seems to have been generated
as a special case, with diverging operative assumptions. This
confusion sorely needs to be clarified in the future.
Yours
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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