Greetings,
There was a continuous practice of citing/overciting the FAQ page,
sometimes without answering the questions directly. This happened more on
the other mailing lists (For example:
)
Now, the /FAQ page, which was being continuously referred to, has a
"neutrality of this page is disputed" tag
0949.
It earlier had an essay tag. I have read its talk page.
Until things are settled, which page is recommended (if there is any)?
(Not to anyone in specific, a question/thought in general)
Regards,
User:Titodutta
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 16:57, Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 02:07, Tito Dutta
<trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
... ...
FAQ 2.6: "... findings of the 2030 research and planning community review
[link to email],...."
-- Perhaps a "link to email" is missing? If it so, it's a minor thing of
course and can be fixed.
-- While revisiting the page I saw the changes have been made. Perhaps a
response to the email could have been better, anyway, thanks for making
changes on the FAQ
Comment in personal capacity, thanks
User:Titodutta
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to
> remind me over email or phone call.
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 23:22, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think at this point, someone needs to answer: who has predetermined
>> this outcome?
>>
>> It's clear nobody at (say) Samir's level can or will answer this
>> question - just repeat the same things again, as if nobody ever
>> objected.
>>
>> So precisely who is so gung-ho for this idea?
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 13:58, Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > My comments are in a personal capacity, and kindly note my posts are
>> not
>> > directed towards anyone specifically/at all. Sincere thanks for
>> > understanding these two points.
>> >
>> > " We recommend you to have a look at these updates before making
>> further
>> > conclusions here.
>> > -- Thanks for the recommendation. Kindly do not assume that we are not
>> > reading the updates "before making further conclusions here".
>> >
>> > " the Brand team has been watching the RfC and has written a summary
>> about
>> > it"
>> > --Yes, RfC needs a closure/summary, from which we get action points.
>> Now,
>> > there is something called WP:INVOLVED. Someone who is
>> > supporting/opposing/promoting/demoting an idea or in other words
>> someone
>> > who is "involved" often may not close or summarise a
debate/discussion
>> with
>> > due weight to all the arguments. As a result, conclusions may be
>> faulty,
>> > and action points may not reflect the actual opinion of the RfC.
>> Example
>> > below.
>> >
>> > FAQ: Why is this project moving forward after the RfC resulted in clear
>> > majority opposition?
>> > (
>> >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
>> > ?)
>> > -- Even after reading the answer I also don't understand
"why?" A
>> point I
>> > get there is "exploring further options". On the report page,
"What is
>> > happening with the feedback?" (intended action points section perhaps)
>> is
>> > taking me to FAQ page. From the FAQ page the last paragraph sends me
>> back
>> > to the report page, making it a loop.
>> >
>> > " The team has integrated the feedback of the RfC in the development
>> > process, just as we did with the activities organized by the project
>> > itself. "
>> > -- unlike other statements here any footnote or reference is not given.
>> > Would love to learn what are those activities and how was the RfC
>> feedback
>> > integrated into the agenda/activity. (Please note that I have read the
>> > brand workshop report.)
>> >
>> > That's all for now, with regards, and good wishes during the global
>> > pandemic time,
>> > User:Titodutta
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 14:19, Samir Elsharbaty <
>> selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi, the Brand team has been watching the RfC and has written a
>> summary
>> > > about it [1] that was shared both in the RfC [2] and the project
>> page [3]
>> > > in Meta. The team has integrated the feedback of the RfC in the
>> development
>> > > process, just as we did with the activities organized by the project
>> > > itself.
>> > >
>> > > The RfC is covered in the main project page as well as in the FAQ
>> [4]. The
>> > > RfC has been a recurrent topic of discussion in the Brand project
>> talk page
>> > > [5], where we are answering questions and discussing topics whenever
>> they
>> > > are posted. We recommend you to have a look at these updates before
>> making
>> > > further conclusions here.
>> > >
>> > > The RfC is about the use of the word “Wikipedia” in the name of the
>> > > Foundation, and by extension the names of affiliates were discussed
>> as
>> > > well. The project team has clarified that many options for a naming
>> > > convention are being explored. While having Wikipedia as a central
>> concept
>> > > is a project requirement, It is very unlikely that any naming
>> convention
>> > > proposal will be based on a simple substitution of the word
>> "Wikimedia"
>> > > with the word "Wikipedia". Brand systems offer many more
>> possibilities.
>> > >
>> > > Another important point to clarify is that the proposals for naming
>> > > conventions haven’t been defined yet. According to the project
>> timeline
>> > > [6], several proposals for a naming convention will be shared with
>> the
>> > > communities for feedback in May, at the earliest. At the end of this
>> > > review, one proposal will be selected and refined. You can check the
>> > > timeline to learn about further phases with public reviews before
>> the full
>> > > proposal for a brand system is presented to the Wikimedia Foundation
>> > > leadership and the Board.
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
>> > >
>> > > [2]
>> > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Founda…
>> > >
>> > > [3]
>> > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
>> > >
>> > > [4]
>> > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
>> > >
>> > > [5]
>> > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_m…
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
>> > >
>> > > Community Brand and Marketing coordinator
>> > >
>> > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 1:12 AM David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Yes. Who's the person telling Samir to post this stuff, which
comes
>> > > > across as aggressively ignoring all feedback to date? Could we
>> have a
>> > > > word with them here?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - d.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 14:12, Peter Southwood
>> > > > <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > When you speak for someone who is hard of listening, it is
an
>> > > > occupational hazard that you will be shouted at occasionally by
>> those
>> > > whose
>> > > > voices are being ignored. It is not necessarily anything
personal,
>> just
>> > > > part of the heat in the kitchen.
>> > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > Peter
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:
>> wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On
>> > > > Behalf Of Yaroslav Blanter
>> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:28 AM
>> > > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a
>> movement?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In all honesty, this should not have been directed at Samir.
I
>> do not
>> > > > think
>> > > > > he has the authority to stop the process. And whoever has
>> probably
>> > > spends
>> > > > > more time in Twitter that in Wikimedia projects.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best
>> > > > > Yaroslav
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:12 AM Tito Dutta
<trulytito(a)gmail.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > There is something called [[WP:IDHT,]] i.e. I didn't
hear that.
>> > > > > > No matter how many times, how many people (90% in the
RFC)
>> speak, I
>> > > > just
>> > > > > > didn't hear that.
>> > > > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > > > (Comment in personal capacity)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 00:15, Samir Elsharbaty <
>> > > > selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > We wanted to follow up with a brief update on the
project
>> timeline
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > share an invitation to join an event this month.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > We know there continues to be so much uncertainty
in the
>> world, so
>> > > > we are
>> > > > > > > slowing down the process of the project. Big
changes are
>> happening
>> > > > to all
>> > > > > > > of us these days. We want to make sure that we
respect the
>> time and
>> > > > > > > priorities of the project collaborators. This means
updating
>> the
>> > > > project
>> > > > > > > timeline approach to have more flexibility for
participants
>> and
>> > > > smaller
>> > > > > > > time commitments [1], revising the project schedule
month by
>> month
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > keeping the Brand Network [2] and other
participants
>> informed on a
>> > > > more
>> > > > > > > regular basis with any updates and changes. The
naming
>> discussions
>> > > > > > planned
>> > > > > > > for April are now pushed to May, at the earliest.
Design
>> proposals
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > > likewise shifted +4 weeks.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > But we do have things to share:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > *This month: live brand concept presentation!*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > To honor, celebrate, and conclude the work around
the
>> concepts
>> > > > referred
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > in Essie’s email above [3], Snohetta and the Brand
Project
>> team
>> > > will
>> > > > > > > present the Unified Concept LIVE on 16 April, 15:00
- 16:00
>> GMT.
>> > > > Snøhetta
>> > > > > > > will explain how they used the ideas, feedback and
conceptual
>> > > models
>> > > > from
>> > > > > > > the workshops and online exercises to arrive at a
final,
>> unified
>> > > > concept.
>> > > > > > > This unified concept will be the foundation for
the
>> upcoming work
>> > > > around
>> > > > > > > the naming conventions, visual decisions, and the
overall
>> design
>> > > > system.
>> > > > > > > The session will also be recorded and made
available for
>> viewing
>> > > > after.
>> > > > > > You
>> > > > > > > can join us using these links. [4] Note: this is
not a
>> presentation
>> > > > of a
>> > > > > > > proposal for a naming convention or design.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thank you!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Samir and the brand project team
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [1]
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brand_Network
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [3]
https://brandingwikipedia.org/concepts/
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [4] Join via Zoom:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/769565325
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Steam via Youtube Live:
>> > > > > > >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS72O6Si94Q
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Community Brand and Marketing coordinator
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation
<https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Gerard <
>> dgerard(a)gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > The article itself is spammy brochure-style
nonsense, and
>> this is
>> > > > even
>> > > > > > > > after some cleanup. Editorial eyes welcomed.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn%C3%B8hetta_(company)
>> > > > > >
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn%C3%B8hetta_%28company%29>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > - d.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 23:16, Samir
Elsharbaty
>> > > > > > > > <selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > The Brand Project Team felt it was
important to address
>> the
>> > > > concerns
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > questions around Snøhetta and the English
Wikipedia, and
>> have
>> > > now
>> > > > > > added
>> > > > > > > > an
>> > > > > > > > > FAQ about it. [1] Please refer there for
the full
>> details about
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > block
>> > > > > > > > > and what is being done. The project team
is in the
>> process of
>> > > > > > updating
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > project materials, including the FAQ, so
feel free to
>> add those
>> > > > pages
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > your watchlist to stay up to date on the
latest
>> information.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Samir
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > [1]
https://w.wiki/LEF
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Community Brand and Marketing
coordinator
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation
<https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:43 AM Gnangarra
<
>> gnangarra(a)gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > This does have feeling of a company
creating a
>> financial
>> > > > > > relationship
>> > > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > > > the Foundation as way to bypass or
backdoor a
>> community ban
>> > > > thats
>> > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > > > > > reviewed already. Over the years
I've worked with
>> many
>> > > users
>> > > > who
>> > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > > > > > blocked and help them become
productive contributors
>> but
>> > > before
>> > > > > > they
>> > > > > > > > start
>> > > > > > > > > > making recommendation or decisions
about who we are
>> there
>> > > > needs to
>> > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > > something done to get them back to
good standing with
>> the
>> > > > community
>> > > > > > > > first
>> > > > > > > > > > untiil thats taken place.
It's like asking the fox
>> to
>> > > > rebuild
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > hen
>> > > > > > > > > > house, I just dont see how I could
support anything
>> they
>> > > > > > recommend.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > After the dollars, and t=volunteer
time that has been
>> pumped
>> > > > into
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > 2030
>> > > > > > > > > > strategy shouldnt we already know
who we are, as it is
>> that
>> > > > should
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > > > > > been the key starting point for a
strategy process. Its
>> > > > > > > comprehensible
>> > > > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > > > to have known or explored that
before deciding where,
>> how,
>> > > why
>> > > > we
>> > > > > > > will
>> > > > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > > doing anything for the next 10
years.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 03:20, David
Gerard <
>> > > dgerard(a)gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Particularly as they've
demonstrated by their
>> actions an
>> > > > > > > > unwillingness
>> > > > > > > > > > > to work with Wikipedia
properly:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archi…
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > - d.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 04:34,
Peter Southwood
>> > > > > > > > > > >
<peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I would agree with this in
principle. From what I
>> have
>> > > > seen so
>> > > > > > > > far, it
>> > > > > > > > > > > looks like either Snøhetta have
not done their
>> homework on
>> > > > how we
>> > > > > > > > > > operate,
>> > > > > > > > > > > or they have the arrogance of
PR agencies, don't
>> care, and
>> > > > plan
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > spin
>> > > > > > > > > > > their way through with smoke
and mirrors, flashy
>> pages with
>> > > > lots
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > buzz,
>> > > > > > > > > > > little content and all the
dialogue they can't
>> avoid. Maybe
>> > > > I am
>> > > > > > > > wrong,
>> > > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > they have just been badly
briefed. Who can tell from
>> the
>> > > > outside?
>> > > > > > > > Block
>> > > > > > > > > > > evasion does not bode well for
their understanding
>> of the
>> > > > > > > community.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Peter
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Wikimedia-l
[mailto:
>> > > > > > > wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org]
>> > > > > > > > On
>> > > > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Pine W
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 13,
2020 8:13 PM
>> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing
List
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]
Brand Project: Who are
>> we as a
>> > > > > > > movement?
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > First, a disclaimer that
these comments aren't
>> directed
>> > > > > > > personally
>> > > > > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > > > > you, Essie.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Even if money was
unlimited, I thought that
>> Snøhetta
>> > > > deserved
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > community's trust, and
I felt that WMF was a good
>> steward
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > > > resources
>> > > > > > > > > > > > (all of which are
questionable), I don't think
>> that this
>> > > > > > project
>> > > > > > > > is a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > good idea. Wikidata is an
increasingly important
>> > > component
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Wikiverse, and there are a
some problems with WMF
>> > > > rebranding
>> > > > > > > > itself as
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the Wikipedia Foundation
including the risk to the
>> > > > communities
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > affiliates from WMF's
political adventures,
>> governance
>> > > > > > problems,
>> > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > occasional high profile
clashes with the
>> community. I
>> > > don't
>> > > > > > think
>> > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the costs or the risks
here make sense, I wouldn't
>> > > involve
>> > > > > > > Snøhetta
>> > > > > > > > > > > > given its apparent block
evasion on English
>> Wikipedia,
>> > > and
>> > > > I've
>> > > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > > > > > > > unimpressed with WMF's
handling of this process
>> during
>> > > the
>> > > > past
>> > > > > > > few
>> > > > > > > > > > > > months.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I am fine with discussions
about branding, but not
>> with
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > > > program
>> > > > > > > > > > > > in its current form.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Given the choice, I would
freeze this project and
>> > > spending
>> > > > > > > > associated
>> > > > > > > > > > > > with it pending a Meta RfC
regarding the
>> community's view
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > > > whether
>> > > > > > > > > > > > this project should
continue. If the community
>> wants a
>> > > > branding
>> > > > > > > > > > > > project to continue, I
would let the community
>> decide on
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > > project's
>> > > > > > > > > > > > parameters and budget, and
what if any consultant
>> should
>> > > be
>> > > > > > > > involved.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Pine
>> > > > > > > > > > > > (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
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