[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

Anders raised the question how this relates to "smarter" machine-created traffic. Do we know more about this? Best Regards, Jürgen. Am 07.01.22 um 21:45 Uhr schrieb James Heilman: > Have been tracking medical pageviews for EN WP for more than 10 years. > It appears our readership peaked around 2014, there was a bump during > the pandemic, and now the fall in pageviews is continuing again... This > despite much of our pageviews for medicine continuing to be related to > the pandemic. > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_20… > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_2009_until_2014.png> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages> > > James > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 11:09 AM Toni Ristovski &lt;toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com > <mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Additionally, pandemic 2020 with a lot of lockdowns makes many > people commit to different activities, among them starting editing > on Wikipedia or reading more. Basically, in my opinion it is better > to compare with 2019 numbers. Also, it will be useful to have some > kind of survey about this which can give us a better overview of > these data. > > As I`m editor and admin on Macedonian Wikipedia, I was quite > surprised that our Wikipedia actually continues to grow in terms of > reading and having a stable editing base. > > All the best, > Toni > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:52 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga > &lt;galder158(a)hotmail.com <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > There's another option: the 2020 pandemic lockdowns made a huge > peak on views, so year on year, 2021 has worse results. > > 2022(e)ko urt. 7(a) 18:41 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Anders > Wennersten &lt;mail(a)anderswennersten.se > <mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se>>): > > When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias: en, de pl, > nl they all > show a decrease of views of 13-15% in last 12 months from a > year ago, > and number of active editors down 10- 20 % (with exception > of en). > > Has this been analysed somewhere, are we losing our readers and > contributors or is it mostly Google that access our info > "smarter" not > creating "views" > > Anders > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines> > and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l> > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/66FNJZYIDINNHVOBRBWQ7WCBD6EHUMLC/> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines> and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l> > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AIZF4GBG63E6PS3IQOOYLY6QUKZL526H/> > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines> and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l> > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/YSBWBQMFTKVRM4NVPZV2OME3SQCN3TH7/> > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org