Maybe people don't want to spend 2 hours sorting out authors? Also, the history link
allows someone to look at every single contribution,
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From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk(a)eunet.yu>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:09:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal
George Herbert wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Nikola Smolenski
<smolensk(a)eunet.yu>wrote;wrote:
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 03:23:51 Erik
Moeller wrote:
2009/1/20 geni <geniice(a)gmail.com>om>:
1)This isn't legal within anything close to
the current wording of the
page.
CC General Counsel has confirmed that our proposed attribution model
is consistent with the language of CC-BY-SA. There is no need to use
attribution parties - our proposed approach is consistent with 4(c)(i)
and 4(c)(iii).
Don't know about this wording thing, but as a Wikipedia author,
I have to
say
that I do not think that attributing me in this way is sufficient. As a
Wikimedian, I believe that a lot of people will feel the same. And as a
programmer, I do not see why is this controversy necessary at all, as a
number of people have presented a variety of solutions that make it
possible
to analyse the revisions and extract authors with satisfying accuracy.
I disagree. The technical analysis misses contributions which remain in
conceptual form (layout of a page, sections completely rewritten but not
reconceptualized). It also is error prone. Original authorship of text
There is no one single technical analysis. There are various methods of
analysis proposed, including ones that could identify changes to layout
without change of contents. Either way, it is better to identify authors
99% of the time, than not to identify them at all.
There's nothing wrong with this method of
attribution - it's better than we
Yes, there is. I am an author, and I do not consider this method of
attribution appropriate.
have or require now. It's less than what GFDL
says it requires, sure, but
Wikipedia has never held to the letter of that, and anyone who's contributed
to Wikipedia once they were aware of that can be held to have implicitly
waived that particular GFDL clause in favor of "what we're actually doing".
Translation: what we are doing right now is wrong and no one complains
too loudly, therefore we may get away with being even more wrong in the
future.
This improves what we actually do. Why would you
think it's worse?
No it doesn't. For example, German Wikireaders are published with a list
of all the authors at the end, and after this change they wouldn't have
to be.
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