Hoi,
The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board on the dissemination of
funds.
By adding the extra baggage, you make it a negative. The FDC recommends and
it is responsible for that. The board does not have the bandwidth to do the
work again. It relies on the recommendation and THEREFORE the FDC has an
unenviable job to do.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 26 November 2015 at 16:26, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
Gerard, They don’t look like weasel words to me. How
would you try to
describe the FDC's role more accurately?
Cheers,
P
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Hoi,
Sorry but "The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then
decide on them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does
it withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
Board." qualify as weasel words. You make proposals and hope, expect that
they will be accepted. Not taking responsibility for your actions and
blaming them is the same as saying "we are only saying and they were not
thinking themselves."
Not good, not appreciated.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 15:56, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net> wrote:
Hi MZMcBride,
The Wikimedia Foundation has a section under
"Organisation-specific
remarks", but isn't included in the "Funding recommendations" chart
and there's no amount requested, amount allocated, or proposal
listed for the Wikimedia Foundation. Why is that?
They are organisation-specific remarks. :-) The WMF did not apply to
the FDC this round, hence why there are no amounts
requested/allocated, or a proposal to link to. The FDC felt it
necessary to include recommendations about the WMF anyway.
If Wikimedia Deutschland is required to separate
out costs for
Wikidata, does that mean that the Wikimedia Foundation is required
to split out costs for Wikipedia and its other projects? I'd be
quite curious to know how much money is being spent by the Wikimedia
Foundation on Wiktionary
or
Wikinews or Wikiversity.
It's worth noting that there are two meanings to the word 'project'
here - there are the Wikimedia projects, and then there are projects
run by the Wikimedia organisations (think of, e.g., GLAM or education
projects). It's particularly the latter case that is most relevant to
the FDC's work, and in this case Wikidata falls under both meanings.
The report includes this note:
The FDC is appalled by the closed way that the
WMF has undertaken
both strategic and annual planning, and the WMF’s approach to
budget transparency (or lack thereof).
Sort of inline with the first question, but perhaps more direct:
what power does the Funds Dissemination Committee have over the
amount of
donor
money allocated toward the Wikimedia Foundation?
Can the FDC only
admonish
the organization, but not actually withhold
funds?
The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then decide on
them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does it
withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
Board.
Thanks,
Mike
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