The comment is a little bit partial.
The governance is partially connected with the local system law. In some
countries no profit association are linked to strict parameters and the
governance is not an option. I don't know personally the system law of
France, but I suppose that it's weaker than in other countries.
The last point is connected with the point of privileges which are, at
the opposite, balanced by stricter parameters than user groups.
Chapters have some obligations compensated by few privileges, and
honestly the state of User Group is at the moment the easiest way to get
an official recognition by WMF.
It's sufficient to check how many user groups have been created recently
and how many chapters to define clearly if there is a "marginalization
of alternatives".
Kind regards
On 04/08/2017 09:55, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote:
The current situation (further) demonstrates a huge
weakness in the current system of the governance of local communities. The problems being
discussed here are far from unique to Wikimedia France and can be seen not only in other
affiliates, but also in the long-festering problems of the administration of Wikimedia
projects. As Rogol and others note... the Foundation has it hands tied to a large degree
because of both legal and ideological concerns. But this means that individuals and small
groups of people are able to work the system to their advantage, with little to no
accountability to either their local communities or to the overall movement.
As for the idea of forming alternate organizations, that is easier said than done. I
speak from my experience with Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey. It took us almost 2 years to
get approval from AffCom as a user group among other struggles. The privileges that
chapters have in particular allow for marginalization of alternatives.
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If the Foundation is seen to be directing the activities of a chapter at
the proposed level of micro-management then it would jeopardise the legal
status both of the Foundation (in terms of their safe harbour status) and
of the chapter (as an independent and charitable body). The Foundation is
free to fund or not fund, to recognise or derecognise. But not to control.
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Ilario Valdelli
Wikimedia CH
Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre
Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera
Switzerland - 8008 Zürich
Tel: +41764821371
http://www.wikimedia.ch
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