Yes, agreed. I also actively avoid using Commons sometimes, because the average life expectancy of a freely-licensed image is... shorter than one would hope.
If only for efficiency's sake, we absolutely need somewhere for newbies to upload images which " 1a) won't be deleted out of hand 1b) won't be deleted simply for lack of demonstration of notability or bulletproof (c) clearance, when it's reasonable to guess that the uploader may have such rights 1c) won't be deleted after being used on other projects, without an explicit takedown request (but may be hidden, as per d) 1d) conversely, won't be made easily accessible for transclusion on other projects until issues are resolved, or can easily be 'hidden' from transclusion by a templated concern, while not deleting the upload so that there is no longer a place to discuss + resolve
And we should also have 2a) a cross-wiki space for images used on any project, under whatever license, that don't fit current Commons policy 2b) ...that may require a more explicit method of calling the files to include them, so they can't be accidentally used in an inappropriate context.
1 and 2 don't have to be Commons itself. That would be a conceptually simple solution, but they could also be a separate project, with bots that migrate things to Commons once current C-policies are fully satisfied.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:48 PM Strainu strainu10@gmail.com wrote:
My2c on the original question: Commons does a lot to discourage people from uploading to Commons. Everything from not allowing non-free formats (even automatically converted to free equivalents) to asking for cross-wiki uploads to be disabled and repeatedly proposing the same file for deletion is discouraging uploaders.
That's still anecdotical evidence I guess, but when one sees established users deliberately avoiding Commons because of these shortfalls one should probably take them seriously.
Pe duminică, 17 mai 2020, Benjamin Ikuta benjaminikuta@gmail.com a scris:
Anecdotally, it seems people sometimes don't upload their photos to Commons because they don't realize that the scope of Commons is much broader than that of Wikipedia.
Has there been, or should there be, any research into this, or why people don't contribute more broadly?
~Benjamin
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