Yes, agreed. I also actively avoid using Commons sometimes, because the
average life expectancy of a freely-licensed image is... shorter than one
would hope.
If only for efficiency's sake, we absolutely need somewhere for newbies to
upload images which "
1a) won't be deleted out of hand
1b) won't be deleted simply for lack of demonstration of notability or
bulletproof (c) clearance, when it's reasonable to guess that the uploader
may have such rights
1c) won't be deleted after being used on other projects, without an
explicit takedown request (but may be hidden, as per d)
1d) conversely, won't be made easily accessible for transclusion on other
projects until issues are resolved, or can easily be 'hidden' from
transclusion by a templated concern, while not deleting the upload so that
there is no longer a place to discuss + resolve
And we should also have
2a) a cross-wiki space for images used on any project, under whatever
license, that don't fit current Commons policy
2b) ...that may require a more explicit method of calling the files to
include them, so they can't be accidentally used in an inappropriate
context.
1 and 2 don't have to be Commons itself. That would be a conceptually
simple solution, but they could also be a separate project, with bots that
migrate things to Commons once current C-policies are fully satisfied.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:48 PM Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My2c on the original question: Commons does a lot to
discourage people from
uploading to Commons. Everything from not allowing non-free formats (even
automatically converted to free equivalents) to asking for cross-wiki
uploads to be disabled and repeatedly proposing the same file for deletion
is discouraging uploaders.
That's still anecdotical evidence I guess, but when one sees established
users deliberately avoiding Commons because of these shortfalls one should
probably take them seriously.
Pe duminică, 17 mai 2020, Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com> a
scris:
Anecdotally, it seems people sometimes don't upload their photos to
Commons because they don't realize that the scope of Commons is much
broader than that of Wikipedia.
Has there been, or should there be, any research into this, or why people
don't contribute more broadly?
~Benjamin
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