On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Kevin Gorman
Pete: there's not really any point in making
this thread a laundry list
times that admins and crats on commons fucked up
vs times they didn't
As I said (at Fae's suggestion), there's no reason to clutter the list. If
you want to dig into this, I'd suggest setting up a wiki page (or a
discussion at, say, the Commons Village Pump). And the reason I suggested
it is, as I said, to generate some actual examples, so that we can move
away from the sweeping generalizations you have been repeatedly making in
this discussion thread.
Admins and crats on commons have also
historically made a large number of
decisions that fly in the face of WMF board resolutions, often
David Gerard's point is ringing very true here: you will not make this
assertion more true merely by repeating it. Examples, please -- or else
please drop it.
A project where people with advanced userrights fairly
regularly make decisions that fly in the face of
WMF board resolutions
> are not censured by their peers is a project with problems.
And then you repeat it again, within the same message. Again, without
A lot of the issues Kevin is probably referring to revolve around the 2011
debate, and many of the most blatant problems have since been cleaned up. I
haven't looked into it recently, but there was a serious issue years ago
with wank galleries, images with questionable provenance, images of
potentially underage models, etc. Many of the policies around consent and
identity that have been developed in recent years came to Commons partly as
the result of huge external pressure and in the face of massive resistance
by many (but by no means all or even most) Commoners.