On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
<cimonavaro(a)gmail.com> wrote:
John Vandenberg wrote:
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Jussi-Ville
Heiskanen
<cimonavaro(a)gmail.com> wrote:
geni wrote:
2008/9/30 John Vandenberg
<jayvdb(a)gmail.com>om>:
> Absurd. Most recently written copyright laws are very clear that laws
> and judicial opinions are in the public domain. add Israel and
> Azerbaijan to the growing list appearing in this thread.
>
>
Okey. As I've said I'm more familiar with British based law than
French based (is Azerbaijan Russian based?). The problem is that
British does not have PD laws and has never done so which means that
anyone with an English law based legal system who hasn't updated the
relevant sections will not have PD laws. Rather a lot of countries
have English law based legal systems.
Not okay. This is just absurd. It is ludicrous to assume that every
country which is based on English law, will have jumped over the cliff
after it, and balked from safeguarding itself from copyright silliness.
It was in 1911 that commonwealth countries were given the option of
defining their own copyright laws. As far as I know, all have
radically revised their law, but many still have the 1911 law in
effect for works before the new laws were enacted. Wikisource also
has a project to produce a text of the 1911 copyright act. We need
help proofreading this vital law.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_copyright_act,_1911,_annotated.djvu
The UK gov only provides a revised edition, which doesnt help us
understand what copyright law is in effect in commonwealth countries
which enacted their own laws at different years, and thus based on
different editions of the UK law. Here is the revised law:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1911/cukpga_19110046_en_1
The UK gov only provide originals for a small subset of laws prior to 1998.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts.htm
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John V
Heh. This does sort of make me interested in a further enquiry though...
Are all the countries which base their law on the english system still
members of the commonwealth?
Eygpt was granted independence in 1922.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Egyptian_Copyright_Law
South Africa became a republic in 1961.
More can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations#Termination_of_members…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations
For that matter, could not, and did not some countries
base their legal
system on the english laws, and never ever were members of the
kingdom/empire/commonwealth in the first place? I could easily imagine a
country devising a legal system modeled after the English legal
framework, which actually never came under the crown itself.
Perhaps, however the 1911 Copyright Act was primarily about divesting
a measured amount of British power over the colonies. See they still
wanted the colonies to pay their copyright dues, so they didnt let
them enact any law ... the colonies still had to respect copyright,
and this was at a time when international copyright was first being
agreed upon. The UK signed the Berne Convention in 1887, the 1911
copyright act was when much of it was enacted, but large parts only
came into force with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act of _1988_,
100 years later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literar…
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and…
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John Vandenberg