On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller
<erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> Like many other "old hands", it
seems to get in the way of my workflow.
Not
> an issue for me, as long as I can turn it
off.
hehe, i suppose investing a million $$ to get you turning it off because
it is
in your way is probably not the goal :)
Well, for a million $$ MediaViewer would be slightly overpriced ;-)
> It's probably fine for "modern"
viewing, although it's hard to guess
that
> you get to the file page via the little
Commons icon for people who (in
all
> likelihood) have never seen that icon, or
visited Commons.
Indeed, the icon to the File: page is currently
very opaque. We're
preparing for a round of possible changes to the viewing experience,
potentially including
- moving caption above the fold so readers don't have to hunt for it
- moving disable action above-the-fold
- potentially eliminating the below-the-fold panel entirely
- emphasizing the File: page more prominently as the canonical source
of metadata
- separating out download/use actions more clearly
These changes will need to be carefully tested/validated. If you want
to take a look at an early early (!) prototype (!!), see
http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo , but please
magnus, do these changes make you turn it on again? if not, what would need
to be better?
I think this is a non-issue. It took one click to get to the image page;
now it takes two. That's my main "problem" with it.
As I said, I'm not the target audience for this. I hope.
i think there is two kinds of feedback. (1) technical / feature / workflow
issues. like "i cannot tag easy", "esc leaves mediaviewer instead of
fullscreen", "browser zoom (ctrl-/+) does not work". "X takes one
click
more now". i d love this to be taken into account.
while i find design issues more difficult. the whole user experience
needs, at least imo, consistency. tinkering here and there
may quite heavily break that. better would be to encourage
getting alternative full designs. if this would include how to
clean the commons page ... but that might be too much :)
rupert
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