I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising
targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a
deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think that
someone suggested setting up a calendar to track banner use, which might
also be helpful.
I think I'll step out of this conversation for the moment, and let the
stakeholders take it from here.
Pine
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that
if you have a near
miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal incident
would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is due, but so
that the same situation can be avoided in the future. Organisations that
fail to do this are doomed to repeat their mistakes, not necessarily by the
same people, who may well have learned, but often by other departments,
where the people did not get the opportunity to learn by the mistake.
Refusal to answer reasonable and legitimate questions by stakeholders often
leads to accusations of conspiracy and bad faith and can end in the local
demagogues, of which we have an adequate supply, inciting the torch and
pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at this point.
Cheers,
Peter
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From: wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations (like
the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources / FDC) were
working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising has agreed to
change their plans, I think we should give them some breathing room,
especially because they say that banner scheduling will be coordinated next
year.
Pine
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
Who set the targets that will now not be met, how
were they decided,
and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was not
taken into consideration by these planners.
Cheers,
P
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From: wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
Sent: Thursday, 03 September 2015 10:51 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
I just want to respond to this point in particular:
"Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time
in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a
target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up for
work missed in September.
It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will
need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for
missing the September target."
It was somewhat courageous for WMF Fundraising to change its schedule
and forecast missing a target as a result. Two quotes seem appropriate
in the context of this conversation, particularly regarding WMF's
taking the community's priorities into account and absorbing the risks
to its plans that come with changing to accommodate WLM:
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what
it takes to sit down and listen." -- Winston Churchill.
"Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go
out in the ocean." --Christopher Reeve
Thanks Megan and all.
Pine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Damour <
mathias.damour(a)laposte.net
wrote:
> Le 31/08/2015 13:02, Megan Hernandez a écrit :
>
>> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first
>> time in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting
>> a target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up
>> for work missed in September.
>> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there
>> will need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up
>> for missing the September target.
>>
>
> The WMF team is without any doubt very professional in "meeting its
> target" and in smooth communication.
>
> We should also understand that despite the huge growth of the WMF
> these last few years, it may feel an inferiority complex and think
> it has a backlog to catch up compared to some much richer
> neighbouring companies in the San Francisco Bay ! I guess they
> roughly think: "Why should we have 15 time less employees than
> Twitter !" That's why raising up the fundraising targets can be more
> important than to facilitate a WLM event in just one not-so-big
> country ! :-P
>
> Nevertheless it still give the impression of taking the word-wide
> donors, the volunteers and the other entities (chapters) for
> pawns/chess pieces that you may move or stop whenever you want or
need...
Maybe the
ones to blame are the neighbouring internet companies for
setting a bad example to the WMF... :-\
--
Mathias Damour
[[User:Astirmays]]
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