Re: Gregory. I did not mean incorporation in the legal sense, rather, I
meant it in the community sense, sorry for not being clear :). To clarify,
I am not opposed to lowering the barriers to entry, I am opposed to doing
both that and this, too.
I see two threads of thought here, automatically granting WMF staff voting
privileges (which I weakly oppose, largely per Asaf) and automatically
granting chapter and organization staff voting privileges (which I am
opposed to most strongly).
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Sydney Poore
I find the WMF staff who I interact with to be an
inspiration to me with
their dedication to the mission to the global wikimedia movement.
So do I. :)
Perhaps the reason that many of them are not
volunteering as on site
contributors is because they are too busy with a day job that is solely
focused on the mission of the movement.
Eh, no, that's not a valid argument. Everybody is busy, most Wikimedians
have day jobs or demanding schoolwork of some sort. People manage to
contribute to the projects if they want to. It's a matter of
prioritization, as always in life. So we mustn't accept "maybe they're
just too busy" as an excuse for why staffers purportedly "can't"
Many staffers do. Some don't. In both cases, it's by choice and
I fully support allowing our talented and
dedicated WMF staff to have the
opportunity to choose the people who guide the direction of the WMF.
Meeting the suffrage bar as a community member is not difficult. Those
(few) staffers who aren't already eligible to vote as either developers or
content contributors, further filtered by the criterion "cares sufficiently
to read about candidates and figure out voting" -- which I guesstimate to
be under 20, and probably under 10 -- could have, and therefore should
have, simply edited a bit, on any of the projects, to get suffrage. I
don't think there's any disenfranchisement if they don't get an automatic
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