On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Besides all other things, one of the methods is to keep users at our sites instead of building tools for commercial (and close source) platforms.
Well, I disagree. I don't see how keeping users "at our sites" as long as possible is a method to meet that mission.
I do. If I don't have to leave wikipedia to find, chat with, and trade stories with other wikipedians, I have much lighter frictional costs of switching between chatting and finishing my last essay, uploading images that I was just writing to a friend about, &c. There are also network effects to sharing ideas stories and chat; This is why usertalk pages were a vast improvement over either including little notes in comments in the article text and using external IM clients. We could do much more along those lines; "you have new messages" was cool (and a cool color :) when it first came out, but that's effectively the last innovation in on-wiki chat in the past 5 years.
I don't see how having users do their social networking at wikiwhatever.org helps people develop educational content under a free license.
Socializing is a way of sharing goals and enthusiasm, collaborating, &c.
Getting users to come to "our sites" in the first place can be helpful, and creating plugins for sites like Facebook would do that.
Also true.
SJ
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