Yet another attempt from a checkuser to make monitoring their actions and ensuring our privacy more difficult.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Each project has its own standards and thresholds for when checkusers may be done, provided that they are within the limits of the privacy policy. These standards vary widely. So, the correct place to discuss this is on each project.
Risker
On 13 June 2012 21:02, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Why shouldn't spambots and vandals be notified? Just have the software automatically email anyone that is CUed. Then the threshold is simply whether you have an email address attached to your account or not.
This seems like a good idea. People have a right to know what is being
done
with their data. On Jun 14, 2012 12:35 AM, "Risker" risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 June 2012 19:18, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
This is something that has been bugging me for a while. When a user
has
been checkusered they should at least be notified of who preformed it
and
why it was preformed. I know this is not viable for every single CU
action
as many are for anons. But for those users who have been around for a period, (say autoconfirmed) they should be notified when they are
CU'ed
and
any user should be able to request the CU logs pertaining to
themselves
(who CU'ed them, when, and why) at will. I have seen CU's refuse to
provide
information to the accused.
See the Rich Farmbrough ArbCom case where I suspect obvious fishing,
where
the CU'ed user was requesting information and the CU claimed it would
be
a
violation of the privacy policy to release the time/reason/performer
of
the
checkuser.
This screams of obfuscation and the hiding of information. I know the ombudsman committee exists as a check and balance, however before
something
can be passed to them evidence of inappropriate action is needed.
Ergo
Catch-22
I know checkusers keep a private wiki https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and I know according
to
our
privacy policy we are supposed to purge our information regularly (on
wiki
CU logs exist for 90 days) however who oversees the regular removal
of
private information on the wiki?
My proposal would be for all users who are at least auto confirmed to
be
notified and be able to request all CU logs regarding themselves at
any
point, and any mentions of themselves on the CU wiki should be
retrievable.
Perhaps some full disclosure should be made here John. You are a
checkuser
yourself, have access to the checkuser-L mailing list and the checkuser wiki, helped to set up the Audit Subcommittee on the English Wikipedia (which carries out reviews of checkuser/oversighter actions on
request);
you are also a member of the English Wikipedia functionaries mailing
list
because you are a former arbitrator, a checkuser and an oversighter on enwp. (so have access there to express your concerns or suggest changes
in
standards), It seems you are complaining about a specific case, and instead of talking things out about this specific case, you've decided
to
propose an entirely different checkusering standard. I'll point out
in
passing that half of the spambots blocked in recent weeks by checkusers were autoconfirmed on one or more projects, and even obvious vandals
can
hit the autoconfirmed threshold easily on most projects.
Full disclosure on my part: I am also an Enwp checkuser and a member of
the
Arbitration Committee.
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