Most of the Wikis in the Wikimedia family are organised by language, not
just script. If you load something that is in the wrong language for a
particular wiki it is liable to be deleted as out of scope. That's before
people get into discussions as to whether this is oral history or something
someone has just made up.
I would suggest Wikibooks is your best bet, it already exists in 120
languages, and unlike Wikisource it allows for original publications.
If we don't yet have that language supported and you have a small team that
wants to work in that language you can request a new language be added.
If the request
is approved, the WMF has an internationalization team who can do things
like create new scripts, though I suspect one of your first tasks will be
to translate the various user messages etc for mediawiki.
Alternatively you could look at the incubator
More broadly, the 2019 Strategy recommendations are still being consulted
with the community, there is an assumption by some and a fear by others
that the whole lot, or at least the ideas that have previously been
rejected by the community, will be adopted by acclamation /imposed on the
community. At the least, I would suggest not jumping the gun, particularly
on something that is liable to be deleted under current policy.
At present it isn't even clear that the Foundation is committed to upping
language support from the current 300 or so languages to potentially
several thousand, and if they do adopt that as an aspiration, it may take
some time for the staff to make that a reality.
Regards
WSC
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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 11:58:26 +0100
From: Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which script oral language will use anyway?
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Suhashih
You are right that this could be a controversial choice -- indeed it is
inherently political and there is no way of avoiding that fact. So where
will the decision be taken, on what grounds and by what athority?
Jeff
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:26 PM Subhashish Panigrahi <
psubhashish(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
Some of you might be recovering from the Wikimania fatigue. Those of you
who have already recovered, I wanted to pick your brain about something
that came up multiple times during discussions but none really seem to
have
a clear answer.
Which script (writing system) an oral language speaker would use for
creating an entry on (gateway [1]) projects like Wiktionary or Wikibooks
or
even uploading a list of words on Commons using a
tool like Lingua Libre?
Will it be the script used for the official language of the region where
the former language is from?[2] This is a bit controversial as native
speakers of many indigenous languages would see this as a form of
colonization. Will it be the w:International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)?
This
is probably the least controversial but a common
and average user might
not
be able to read IPA as the latter was created by
linguists and was
created
for linguistic and scholarly studies rather than
for everyday use.
Wikimedians who are native speakers of languages with less
written/recorded
documentation and individuals who work on such
languages are more
encouraged to share their inputs based on past experience.
1. Gateway project: This is a made-up term to define the Wikimedia
projects
that are more welcoming to newbies and do not
require stringent citation
as
almost all oral languages would lack that. It was
fascinating to see Amir
challenging that it only takes about 30 seconds to add an entry to
Wiktionary (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amir_Aharoni_demonstrating_how_to_a…
)
Subhashish
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:42:02 +0200
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Perhaps this is something that should be left as the choice of the
volunteers who contribute the content? Whatever they feel comfortable with
and are competent in. It may vary between contributors for the same
language.
Once content is published, anyone with the skills and desire can
transliterate to any other script system of their choice. Others can
translate to any other language of their choice. This is the wiki way of
doing things. If we have support for a script system it can be used, if not
that becomes a technical problem.
Cheers,
Peter
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Suhashih
You are right that this could be a controversial choice -- indeed it is
inherently political and there is no way of avoiding that fact. So where
will the decision be taken, on what grounds and by what athority?
Jeff
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:26 PM Subhashish Panigrahi <
psubhashish(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
Some of you might be recovering from the Wikimania fatigue. Those of you
who have already recovered, I wanted to pick your brain about something
that came up multiple times during discussions but none really seem to
have
a clear answer.
Which script (writing system) an oral language speaker would use for
creating an entry on (gateway [1]) projects like Wiktionary or Wikibooks
or
even uploading a list of words on Commons using a
tool like Lingua Libre?
Will it be the script used for the official language of the region where
the former language is from?[2] This is a bit controversial as native
speakers of many indigenous languages would see this as a form of
colonization. Will it be the w:International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)?
This
is probably the least controversial but a common
and average user might
not
be able to read IPA as the latter was created by
linguists and was
created
for linguistic and scholarly studies rather than
for everyday use.
Wikimedians who are native speakers of languages with less
written/recorded
documentation and individuals who work on such
languages are more
encouraged to share their inputs based on past experience.
1. Gateway project: This is a made-up term to define the Wikimedia
projects
that are more welcoming to newbies and do not
require stringent citation
as
almost all oral languages would lack that. It was
fascinating to see Amir
challenging that it only takes about 30 seconds to add an entry to
Wiktionary (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amir_Aharoni_demonstrating_how_to_a…
)
Subhashish
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