I very much agree that it does not wholly replace Wikipedia, for indeep research it's the best. However, for quick searches I need an immediate answer - such as quickly understanding what the boss means when he's talking about the "debit leg" or some technical term I never heard, it already replaced Wikipedia. And indeed, for my work mate it already replaced Stackoverflow as the first place to look when he has doubts on coding.

I'm pretty sure we're already being hurt by this, being myself one of the "hurters".

Paulo



Shabab Mustafa <shabab.mustafa@gmail.com> escreveu no dia quinta, 15/12/2022 à(s) 17:58:
OT continued - 

ChatGPT poses bigger threat to search engines, like Google or Human generated knowledge platform like Stackoverflow, Quora than Wikipedia at this moment of time. According to CNBC news article, Google already taking a conservative stance towards this. [1]

I my personal opinion, ChatGPT might not be replacing WP very newer future. There is a chance that the startup behind ChatGPT will get burried under lawsuits from big fishes in the pond if they feel any existential threat. For example, Stackoverflow already banned (temporarily) ChatGPT. [2]

Ref:
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[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/google-execs-warn-of-reputational-risk-with-chatgbt-like-tool.html

[2] https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/temporary-policy-chatgpt-is-banned

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 7:18 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
OT for the thread, but on the topic "Competition to Wikipedia" -

This is very new for me (found about it yesterday, through a work mate), probably already well known for others - but a lot of people (including me) iw now using it extensively as an alternative to Wikipedia: https://chat.openai.com .

Spare your time lecturing me about it not having reliable sources, or whatever argument you may find - I write Wikipedia and know all that pretty well. I'm just saying that people here that used to go to Wikipedia for quick results are now using that thing, and it's spreading like fire. Doesn't work for everything (like bios and current events), but for many stuff seems to be an advantageous replacement of wp, when what we want is quick & fairly reliable (even if not bulletproof) results.

Best,
Paulo

Peter Southwood <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> escreveu no dia quinta, 15/12/2022 à(s) 04:34:
Last I heard, Wikipedia is not for sale, so not much point in persuading
someone to try to buy it. Also some real competition could be good for
Wikipedia, and for that matter, good for the Wikimedia Foundation. It would
also be very interesting to see how a real challenge to English Wikipedia
would be organized. All the previous attempts have failed, often quite
dismally. If it were to work better, many of us would probably join it, if
it turns out to be a thing one could join.
Many of us are loyal to the concept of free knowledge, not so much to the
platform it is presented on.
Cheers,
Peter

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The last part of the great wall of text appears to persuade him to invest in
alternatives instead of buying Wikipedia. For him Wiki is like a sole
McDonald's in a food dessert, and that the solution is to open new
"restaurants".
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