Well the story around Osmosis has further details... They released their
first 300 or so vidoes under an open license and they were within Wikipedia
articles for a while. You can still see them on Commons here:
A number of folks pushed exceedingly hard for their removal. And thus they
are no longer in EN WP. How extensively they were viewed we do not know as
we have no way to determine that data. Our only data for videos is if the
portion of the page they are on is loaded or not, and not if the play
button has been pressed or how much of the video was watched.
Following the breakdown of our collaboration with Osmosis they dropped the
use of an open license, and all their subsequent material is fully
copyrighted. Just a few weeks back they sold themselves to Elsevier...
Now one of the legitimate criticisms of these videos is that they were not
easily collaboratively editable. We have built software to make
collaborative editing of video easier. Unfortunately currently it is down
and we are needing to find a programmer able and willing to fix it, we at
Wiki Project Med do not have much funding available...
James
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 4:53 PM Juergen Fenn <jfenn(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Thanks, James. I think this is an important point. So
we could say we
have lost a part of acedemia.
More to the point, we seem to have failed to integrate course materials
and multimedia formats into Wikipedia articles.
Could we try and create some of these and integrate them into articles
relevant to students in oder to test whether this makes a difference to
them? Or do you think they would stick to Osmosis etc. anyway?
Best regards,
Jürgen.
Am 08.01.22 um 00:38 Uhr schrieb James Heilman:
With respect to some anecdotal evidence, I have
for many years asked the
medical students who work with me on their clinical rotations how they
study. I get a few passes through my department a month.
Most reported using Wikipedia 5 to 10 years back. Now sources like
Osmosis, which are basically short video overviews with questions banks
attached, are more commonly mentioned. Video is becoming a more common
way for younger folks to learn.
James
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:55 PM Mohamed ElGohary <ircpresident(a)gmail.com
<mailto:ircpresident@gmail.com>> wrote:
"Is the traffic measured where content is read" would be a better
way of putting it.
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On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:52 AM Juergen Fenn <jfenn(a)gmx.net
<mailto:jfenn@gmx.net>> wrote:
Anders raised the question how this relates to "smarter"
machine-created
traffic. Do we know more about this?
Best Regards,
Jürgen.
Am 07.01.22 um 21:45 Uhr schrieb James Heilman:
Have been tracking medical pageviews for EN WP
for more than
10 years.
It appears our readership peaked around 2014,
there was a bump
during
the pandemic, and now the fall in pageviews is
continuing again... This
despite much of our pageviews for medicine
continuing to be
related to
the pandemic.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_20…
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_20…
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages
James
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 11:09 AM Toni Ristovski
<toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com
<mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com>
<mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com
<mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Additionally, pandemic 2020 with a lot of lockdowns makes
many
people commit to different activities, among them starting
editing
on Wikipedia or reading more. Basically, in
my opinion it
is better
to compare with 2019 numbers. Also, it will
be useful to
have some
kind of survey about this which can give us a
better
overview of
> these data.
>
> As I`m editor and admin on Macedonian Wikipedia, I was
quite
surprised that our Wikipedia actually continues to grow in
terms of
reading and having a stable editing base.
All the best,
Toni
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:52 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
<galder158(a)hotmail.com <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>
<mailto:galder158@hotmail.com <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>>>
wrote:
There's another option: the 2020 pandemic lockdowns
made a
huge
peak on views, so year on year, 2021 has
worse results.
2022(e)ko urt. 7(a) 18:41 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du
(Anders
Wennersten <mail(a)anderswennersten.se
<mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se>
<mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se
<mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se>>>):
When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias:
en, de pl,
nl they all
show a decrease of views of 13-15% in last 12
months from a
year ago,
and number of active editors down 10- 20 % (with
exception
of en).
Has this been analysed somewhere, are we losing
our readers
and
contributors or is it mostly Google
that access
our info
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